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Old 06-16-2013, 02:23 PM   #1
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Default Recipe Calls for Kent Goldings, but I have both fuggles and willamette

I made an Irish Red a few months ago that went over well... well, kinda. It was kind of an accident recipe made from leftovers I had laying around. Grains were pale malt, vienna, little biscuit and a 40L, 1 oz. of kent goldings for 60m, and another oz for 10m.

It turned out the "leftovers red" recipe was well liked. Bittering was low for this style, but it turned out really good and has been requested for a party.

I'm gonna make a 10 gallon batch, but all I have is fuggles and willamette. I recon these are both decent substitutes, but perhaps I should use one vs. the other for bittering vs. finishing? Maybe space it out and add some for 30?

I'm open to suggestions.

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Old 06-16-2013, 03:01 PM   #2
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I'd say Fuggles to bitter and willamette to finish. Cheers!


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They won't taste the same as east kent golding. But they are commonly used in English ales. I'd just get some more EKG.
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Have just brewed an ESB with EKG and Willamette, 2 ozs each. Fuggles would be a regional sub for EKG i think, but maybe not to style.

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Its a good substitute, If you like those hops. I think I preferrr goldings though myself. i made an all fuggles ipa that was pretty good,they vary though(like uk or us hops)I find most of the time there is significant difference in alot of time using the same hops in different seasons. The stability of hops Ive had have varied so I dont always get good potent hops or some may havent stored well.

I havent used willamette enough to tell the difference.Its just a matter of preference alot of times the stability/freshness of the hops themselves too.As well as how much you like to use. I would make it and see if you like it better. If the people really liked that batch then maybe you would want to stick to the same hopping schedule,just using those hops instead. Unless you want to split that batch and move the hop additions around some and see which one they like better maybe?

Also fuggles and willamette are usually substitues for each other and maybe somewhat similar. You could always use each in a split 10 gallon batch also to see maybe a difference/preference between them,since your origional recipe just called for goldings only.
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I like English EKG since it tastes/smells like herbs & lemon grass. Like something I'd use on chicken...
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They won't taste the same as east kent golding. But they are commonly used in English ales. I'd just get some more EKG.
THIS^^^^ Neither Fuggle or Willamette is even in the ballpark of EKG.
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THIS^^^^ Neither Fuggle or Willamette is even in the ballpark of EKG.
I know I'm in the minority, but I prefer Fuggle. EKG smell like cheesy feet.
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I know I'm in the minority, but I prefer Fuggle. EKG smell like cheesy feet.
Maybe you got some old EKG.
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Maybe you got some old EKG.
I wish. I've smelled them at a Deschutes class (these were old and extra cheesy), at home, and at club group brews. I just prefer Fuggle.


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