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Old 05-16-2013, 06:51 PM   #11
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I'm intrigued to see what happens next. I was thinking about converting a small-ish closet in our garage into a fermentation chamber with separate AC. Nothing bit, maybe space for a few fermenters and some cases.

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Old 05-16-2013, 06:56 PM   #12
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:04 PM   #13
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I was planning on taking my back bedroom where I store grain bags currently and cutting it in half originally and insulating the piss out of it to make it a walk in cooler kind of room. But I decided to go with the outdoor version as then I can go through the wall with beer lines. This route will end up costing more, but seems to be more useful in the end.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:16 PM   #14
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Cool project

Will there be insulation on top of this floor or are you going to put insulation between the joists? If the latter, don't you want your vapor barrier beneath the wood and insulation?
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:02 PM   #15
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For the floor, the insulation will fill the space between the joists, followed by a 6 mil vapor barrier then capped with 3/4" OSB. I will likely cover the OSB with vinyl tiles to make a better working surface.

The walls will have 4" walk in cooler panels/OSB/air gap/vapor barrier/thermal foil plywood/studs/space filled with pink board/then a final inner wall panel which I have not yet decided. Maybe drywall?
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I think you need the vapor barrier outside of your insulation. I could be wrong but its how I've seen it done for insulating floors above crawl spaces.
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I think you need the vapor barrier outside of your insulation. I could be wrong but its how I've seen it done for insulating floors above crawl spaces.
I think Carlscan is right. The vapor barrier will also help keep critters from damaging the insulation batts between the floor joists. I would at least add some heavy painters drip cloth or plastic sheeting to the bottom, install the insulation batts, then cover them with the vapor barrier. Once you get the floor and tiles down it will be fully insulated and protected from critters and bugs. But I live in Fla with all kinds of critters and bugs of all descriptions, so it is just a thought..

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The first two inches of the floor frame will be filled with base course and cement, which are then tamped and wetted, which creates a solid surface that runs up into the lower part of the free space from ground level. It's a bit unconventional but I did this on the shed floor (which is constructed the same way) and it seemed to work well.

My main concern here is mice as I don't want them getting up in there tearing up the insulation. I was considering spraying in an inch or so of spray foam between the base course and the pink board but I don't think I'll need it and that spray foam is really expensive.

I could lay in some vapor barrier under the foam as well at a relatively low cost. One thing I can guarantee is there will be no air circulating under there whatsoever.
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