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Old 05-14-2013, 10:55 AM   #1
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hello all well i decided tonight to make my 1st beer by myself, me and a friend have made a few kit brews together with great success. i have also been brewing cider with alot of success aswell. so today i set out to make a beer by myself. i decided on a gallon batch. so i bought about 2.5 lbs of grain, all mixed in from the bins at whole foods. it contained: carmel breiss, red wheat, and "crystal wheat" i think the last one was called. well i milled it up and then i brought it home and boiled the grains in water for about 5 min then held it at a bare simmer for 35 min. i then separated the grain and brought the wort to a boil,a added 2 cups light dme and 2/3rd a small packet of cascade hops, then simmered for another 40 min. i then strained it and let it cool down to about 90 degrees and placed it into my 1 gallon green glass jug. i reserved a little and put us-05 in to proof for 10 min, then in it went and sealed her up with an airlock. i tasted it and it was nice sweet and malty.. so im wondering what to expect. if i did anything wrong let me know, i just kinda winged it but im thinking it will be good, it smells amazing.

 
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:41 AM   #2
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You shouldn't have boiled & simmered the grains. You should have just brought the water to 160 or so and let them steep for 30 minutes. The higher temps will extract tannins from the grain giving you an astringent flavor.

 
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:49 PM   #3
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And to get the full hop utilization it needs to be boiled for the full amount of time, not simmered. How were you and you're friend making your other batches? The same way?
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:56 PM   #4
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Those are unmalted grains from the grocery? It sounds like you did a cereal boil to gelatanize the starches but without adding it to a mash with some base malt I don't think you'll get anything fermentable from that - just starch haze. I think a cup of DME is about 6 oz so you probably have about a 1.033 beer.

 
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I missed that OP got it from Whole Foods, so now I'm really curious as to how you were brewing before with your partner... Why did you stop using kits?
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:21 PM   #6
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Well.... it'll be.... something...
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:24 PM   #7
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You need base grains like 2row. The ones listed are adjuncts.

 
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:32 PM   #8
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They'd need to be mashed at 150-155F for an hour with some base malt to get the needed enzymes to convert starches to sugars. Boiling or mashing at too high a temp kills the enzymes.
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You need base grains like 2row. The ones listed are adjuncts.
Nah... He used DME. Like an extract recipe with steeping grains. +/- 6 ounces of DME in < 1 gallon will probably be in the 1.30 to 1.35 range. It'll make beer just most likely not very good beer. Then again, maybe it'll be fantastic... I guess just as long as the OP is enjoying himself.
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Those are unmalted grains from the grocery? It sounds like you did a cereal boil to gelatanize the starches but without adding it to a mash with some base malt I don't think you'll get anything fermentable from that - just starch haze. I think a cup of DME is about 6 oz so you probably have about a 1.033 beer.
Good point about the grains. Didn't occur to me that they wouldn't be brewing grains.

 
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