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Old 04-22-2013, 02:49 PM   #1
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Default Dear Auto-Siphon, I hate you!

anyone else have continual issues with their auto-siphon not siphoning? I have the regular old auto-siphon from Midwest(http://www.midwestsupplies.com/5-16-auto-siphon.html) and I tell you almost every time I use it it stops siphoing. It starts off fine then about a gallon or so in it seems to just do nothing and I end pumping the damn thing to try and get it siphoning again. Sometimes it seems to pick back up but in other cases like last night when transferring to bottling bucket I ended up just pumping the damn thing for 3 gallons b/c it kept stopping! maybe its just me who knows, just needed to vent my frustration with this device!


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Old 04-22-2013, 02:59 PM   #2
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anyone else have continual issues with their auto-siphon not siphoning? I have the regular old auto-siphon from Midwest(http://www.midwestsupplies.com/5-16-auto-siphon.html) and I tell you almost every time I use it it stops siphoing. It starts off fine then about a gallon or so in it seems to just do nothing and I end pumping the damn thing to try and get it siphoning again. Sometimes it seems to pick back up but in other cases like last night when transferring to bottling bucket I ended up just pumping the damn thing for 3 gallons b/c it kept stopping! maybe its just me who knows, just needed to vent my frustration with this device!
Are you getting air in the tube (where it connects to the siphon)? I have that issue sometimes.


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Old 04-22-2013, 03:07 PM   #3
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Maybe try a very light film on the plunger seal of the inner tube.
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A siphon works more on natural laws of physics than any sort of engineering/design.

Are you making sure the vessel you are racking into is lower than the vessel you are racking from? Are you sure you have tight connections where the tubing meets the racking cane?

Seriously, if you have a airtight siphon going, it isn't going to stop. It's physics. There's something else going on.
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Also, is the container you're siphoning to lower than where you're siphoning from. While this might seem obvious to most, it might not be obvious to all. And, let's be honest, sometimes we're not always "present" when we're doing these things.
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+1 on all of the above. Try a light film as the geek guy mentioned. I use keg lube.. but something like K-Y Jelly works.. even EVOO. Heck, if olive oil can be used in place of adding oxygen to the wort.. I'd guess it can be used on the seal. I'd rather KY or keg lube tho.
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Let me share the trick that fixed all of my auto siphon woes. This does assume that your receiving vessel is enough lower than the donating vessel. If not, nothing you can do will make it siphon... thanks, physics.

Pour a little pure water/sanitizer solution into the top of the auto siphon tube, on top of the plunger.

Often the seal isn't quite perfect, which can result in bubbles or lost siphon. If you do this, those problems go away. At the worst, you get an extra ounce or two of water in your five gallons of beer.
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It sounds like your siphon is leaking air into the flow somewhere. You may need to get a new one.

I have no problems with mine, in fact it is one of my favorite brewing tools.
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i do have the next vessel lower so gravity can take place, maybe i don't have it low enough. it's usually about 6-8 inches maybe next time i'll try lowering it more. and perhaps the seal isn't great between the cane and the tube b/c last night I did notice beer in the tube above the seal by the cane so maybe that's the issue is i'm not getting a good seal. thanks guys.
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Dear siphon,I don't think I like you,anymore. You used to flow like four,but all ya do now is belch & pee on the floor. Dear siphon,...I don't think I like you,anymore. I used it once,then got spigots for my other fermenters/bottling buckets. Now it's just there in case of emergency. It just doesn't work well with out some cajoling.


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