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Old 04-20-2013, 05:33 PM   #1
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:35 PM   #2
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Yes, definitely. Looks like you've got a leak at that connection. Make sure it's really tight and I always test with water (and star san to clean) before I run any beer through my tubes.



 
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:37 PM   #3
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Raise your FV up on a counter while your keg/bottle bucket are on the floor.
Try to get a solid siphon going with a higher head and it should help.
I used to have this problem all the time untill i switched a longer siphon hose and higher head.

or you can buy smaller dia tubing.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:45 PM   #4
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If you have a leak at the racking cane connection, you can use a cable tie and tighten it up really good. I use an 8" cable tie and pull it tight with pliers.

 
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:00 PM   #5
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I don't know what FV is. Fermenting vessel???

I don't have a leak in the racking cane. I have a massive air bubble in the racking cane. I don't have the slightest freakin' idea of how I'm supposed to fill the racking cane to get a siphon going. The 'effing thing is two feet long (I think I'm going to saw off 8 inches) and rigid. I filled the tube with sanitizing liquid and the siphoned the sanitizing liquid down to fill the cane and tube and then put the cane into the vessel but despite my best efforts it comes out like so (and gave out when I was 3/4 done). Also I have absolutely no way of predicting just how solid a stream I will get until I actually do it, and then I'm committed. Part is that trying to get a sealing clamp on the tube with my tube clamp really effing stinks. The tube was the smallest and most flexible I could find. 3/8 inner diameter 1/2 inch outer diameter but it's still a pain in the ass.

I only siphon for my 1 gallon batches.

 
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:15 PM   #6
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... okay....

calm down.

Managed in a test from the counter to the floor to get a better siphon... until pulling on the four foot tube cause the carboy and a gallon of water to fall off the counter onto my head.

Folding the tube in a pinch with my fingers is at least 20 times more effective than the tube clamp which is a useless piece of junk.

... okay ... calm down.

Will need six feet of tubing I guess.

 
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:20 PM   #7
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Raise your FV up on a counter while your keg/bottle bucket are on the floor.
Try to get a solid siphon going with a higher head and it should help.
I used to have this problem all the time untill i switched a longer siphon hose and higher head.

or you can buy smaller dia tubing.
Longer siphon hose for sure.
People should be shot for selling the siphoners with those damn 3 ft hose...which is at least a foot too short to properly transfer the beer.
I was having a helluva time with my first beer trying to transfer, spilling beer, getting air in the line etc. Went to the hardware store and bought 5 ft hose...problem solved.

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Old 04-20-2013, 06:29 PM   #8
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Longer siphon hose for sure.
People should be shot for selling the siphoners with those damn 3 ft hose...
Got no one to blame but myself for that. No-one sold me the hose. I selected and cut it myself.

Umm. Any reason I *shouldn't* cut eight inches off my racking cane with a hack-saw?

 
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:45 PM   #9
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Got no one to blame but myself for that. No-one sold me the hose. I selected and cut it myself.

Umm. Any reason I *shouldn't* cut eight inches off my racking cane with a hack-saw?
I wouldn't because the hack sawed edges will be rough and can potentially grow bugs. One thing that helps me when I get a bubble there is to flick the connection once to dislodge the bubble. That seems to help.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:33 PM   #10
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I wouldn't because the hack sawed edges will be rough and can potentially grow bugs.
That's a good reason.

Wasn't so much a bubble as a bad siphon seal. Too much of a leak in the end of the tube during the time I moved the cane into the carboy. In that time the poor seal at the end of the tube allowed a *lot* of air to get into the racking can through the open end.

Next time: 1) Don't rely on the tube clamp to pinch the hose; will pinch the tube in a 180 degree fold pinch. Maybe I misunderstood how to use the clamp.

2) Will siphon over edge of counter to floor. Into the sink as I did this time is probably okay except I really didn't have enough manouvering room with the rigid cane. led to having only 3 inches of head in practice and lots of air got in.

3) longer hose.

Siphoning's a pain. It's simple in theory but it's a real mess. Do they make auto-siphons for tiny 1 gallon batches?



 
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