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Old 04-14-2013, 03:13 AM   #11
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Could it be your tasting the stale beer that's been sitting in the beer line? Might explain why the second pour was better tasting.



 
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Old 04-14-2013, 03:13 AM   #12
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Lets start with the basics.

Scrub the inside of the faucet. Maybe you have built up some lacto. Swap the line with another if you have a spare.

Check for leaks everywhere between the tank and the faucet. You could be drawing O2 in somewhere.


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Old 04-14-2013, 06:35 PM   #13
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Lets start with the basics.

Scrub the inside of the faucet. Maybe you have built up some lacto. Swap the line with another if you have a spare.

Check for leaks everywhere between the tank and the faucet. You could be drawing O2 in somewhere.
Shouldn't be the beer lines, since they're only 4.75 feet long, but I will check that. The O2 sounds more likely. I've heard people saying on here that O2 makes an acidic taste in the beer? There could definitely be a slow leak somewhere bc the carbonation level in the beer is not consistent. It has been on 10 PSI for 16 days, so it should be done carbing. I'll pressurize the keg and put it in the bathtub after this keg is empty.

 
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In the meantime, spray water on every seal and connection to check the keg for leaks.

I wouldn't say oxidized beer tastes acidic. I think it tastes like the smell of dried sweat, but most people consider it to have a wet cardboard taste, whatever that means.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:52 PM   #15
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In the meantime, spray water on every seal and connection to check the keg for leaks.

I wouldn't say oxidized beer tastes acidic. I think it tastes like the smell of dried sweat, but most people consider it to have a wet cardboard taste, whatever that means.
Yes, it's a little hard to describe the bad taste. It's kind of like a flat taste (while lots of bubbles still exist), and a bitter/acid aftertaste. A good belgian wheat beer leaves a nice citrus/complex taste on the tongue.

 
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:57 AM   #16
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It may be because you didn't clean the dip tube...i had something similar with my first keg where I didn't scrub it out, just ran water through it. The first glass would be terrible - phenolic/metallic tasting. I took the beer oit assembly apart and recleaned everything Nd it stopped happening.

Did you take the poppits out to clean them? I'd suggest you de pressurize the keg and pull all the components off and clean them well with PBW and a brush, then rinse, starsan and reassemble. Don't forget to sanitize your hands too - I wear disposable vinyl gloves for this.

Cover the openings loosely with starsan sprayed aluminum foil while you're cleaning the parts.

 
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It may be because you didn't clean the dip tube...i had something similar with my first keg where I didn't scrub it out, just ran water through it. The first glass would be terrible - phenolic/metallic tasting. I took the beer oit assembly apart and recleaned everything Nd it stopped happening.

Did you take the poppits out to clean them? I'd suggest you de pressurize the keg and pull all the components off and clean them well with PBW and a brush, then rinse, starsan and reassemble. Don't forget to sanitize your hands too - I wear disposable vinyl gloves for this.

Cover the openings loosely with starsan sprayed aluminum foil while you're cleaning the parts.
Well, I didn't clean the dip tube. I replaced the upper o-rings. I couldn't get the tube out last time I tried. I'll start over and clean out the tube. What is PBW?

 
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:13 AM   #18
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Powdered Brewery Wash - It's a 5-star chemicals product. Works like a dream.

Star san would break down completely in the presence of anything with a pH of over 5. The phosphoric acid (main ingredient) is neutralized by sugars and the dodecylbenzene sulfonic acid will break down into various pretty innocuous compounds (some of which are yeast food) plus a sulfonated benzene ring, which is pretty much biologically inert.

That's above an beyond the fact that used to the manufacturer's directions, star-san has pretty much no flavor.
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Yes, it's a little hard to describe the bad taste. It's kind of like a flat taste (while lots of bubbles still exist), and a bitter/acid aftertaste. A good belgian wheat beer leaves a nice citrus/complex taste on the tongue.
That's probably due to the short lines- the co2 being "knocked" out of suspension.

But I am a bit concerned about not breaking down the keg and cleaning it and sanitizing it. If the diptube doesn't come out, that probably means it's plastered to the post and gummed up with debris. That could be why there are some flavor issues.
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That's probably due to the short lines- the co2 being "knocked" out of suspension.

But I am a bit concerned about not breaking down the keg and cleaning it and sanitizing it. If the diptube doesn't come out, that probably means it's plastered to the post and gummed up with debris. That could be why there are some flavor issues.
Yeah, I've got to clean it right. I put a wrench on it and hit it with a hammer and it wouldn't budge. This may be a stupid question, but would WD-40 on it help get it off there?



 
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