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Old 03-29-2013, 03:18 PM   #1
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Default 240v 5500w eBIAB planning, please help!

Sorry for the long thread!
I'm currently planning on moving on to an BIAB AG setup. I've decided to figure out a parts list and price for a electric BIAB setup since I live in an apartment and can't have propane on a balcony, etc, etc. I'm basically taking lots of information from Johhnodon's build thread and Kal's Electric Brewery website and P-J has been nice enough to hook me up with a wiring diagram! I'm a complete newbie when it comes to everything electrical, but I'll have some of my electrical savvy friends look over my shoulder!

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- Added wiring diagram
- Added control panel layout
- Added contactor per diagram
- Updated questions
- New control panel layout (this one is drawn to scale!)

Kettle:
Amazon - 62qt Bayou Classic Pot with Basket
Brew Hardware - Weldless Sight Tee + cleaning brush (temp probe will be installed in the tee)
Brew Hardware - 3-piece Stainless Ball Valve
Brew Hardware - Weldless Bulkhead
Brew Hardware - 1/2" Hose Barb
Wilserbrewer - BIAB Bag

Heating:
NOTE: After pricing out all the parts for the heating element, I end up with $135 + shipping while Kal's part kit is $145 + shipping. Peace of mind is worth $10 to me!
Kal's Heating Element - DIY kit

Controller:
Electric Brewing Supply - 300x300x150 Steel Enclosure
Auber - 1/16 DIN PID Temperature Controller (SYL-2352)
Auber - 40A SSR
Auber - 40A External Heat sink
Auber - 30A, 2 pole, 120V Coil Contactor
Auber - 40A, 2 pole, 120V Coil Contactor
Auber - Liquid Tight RTD Sensor - 4", 1/4" NPT - 8' deluxe upgrade
Auber - Illuminated Maintained Push button Switch x2 (blue = pump, green = heat)
Auber - Emergency Stop (E-Stop) Switch, 22mm
Auber - Flashing Buzzer - 22mm
Auber - Buzzer Selector Switch - 22mm
Auber- 15A Electrical Outlet
Lowes - Coleman 10/4 Black Power Cord
Amazon - 30A, 250V Plug
Amazon - 30A, 250V Locking Receptacle
Radio Shack - Inline Fuse Holder x4
Radio Shack - 1A Fast-acting Fuses
Radio Shack - 1A Slow-blow Fuses
Radio Shack - 10A Fast-acting Fuses
Radio Shack - 1k-ohm, 1W resistors
Radio Shack - 15ft/each 10awg Stranded Wire in red, black, white and green
Radio Shack - 4-Position Dual-row Terminal Strip
And also some wing nuts, spade & ring connectors, and tension relief clamps for the interior wiring.

Spa Panel:
Home Depot - 50A 240V Spa Panel
Other?

Wiring diagram (Thanks P-J!!):


Spa panel wiring:


Control panel layout (drawn to scale):


Current questions:
- Are the plugs in the parts list correct?
- Anything extra needed for the spa panel or does everything come with the purchase?
- What size enclosure would be optimal for the layout above? Where to buy one?


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You could save some dollars using the Auber E stop push button instead of the illuminated maintained push button. Curious what your plans are for wort chilling.


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You could save some dollars using the Auber E stop push button instead of the illuminated maintained push button. Curious what your plans are for wort chilling.
I use an copper immersion chiller currently and I'll keep using it until I upgrade to a system with a pump.
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What are you plugging your element in to? That's what is meant by "element receptacle." Right now, you don't have anything to plug the element in to. It goes in the control box. You can see it in the upper right of the diagram, coming out of the contactor.

Also, you don't need to spend that much on your element and housing. I don't have a drill press, either. It just requires more elbow grease to do it yourself for a LOT cheaper.
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Ah, I see what you mean now, can't believe I missed that!

Yeah, I've been thinking about that. I'm going to ask around, somebody should have a drill press I can use!
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Two more:

Listen to P-J and countless others and upgrade your RTD to the deluxe cable. It's only an extra $11 and so worth it.

Check out the "show me your element housing" thread for some ideas that could help you avoid the need for a drill press.

Good luck! I'm finishing up my build this week.
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I drilled out the element box with a step drill bit held down with my feet! Don't let the lack of drill cause you to buy that expensive kit.
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@Broham1 - Done and done. Thanks for the heads up on the RTD cable.
@pidass - I've decided to basically copy Kal's part list and assemble my own heating element instead.

Am I missing anything from my parts list? Will the key switch work and connect the same way as the illuminated buttons?
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Don't miss the fuses and resistors in the diagram. Radio Shack.
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Are these the right kind of fuses/fuse holders?
Radio Shack - Inline Fused Holder
Radio Shack - 1A Fast-acting Fuses
Radio Shack - 10A Fast-acting Fuses
Radio Shack - 1k-ohm, 1W resistors
Radio Shack - 10awg Stranded Wire

Or should I look for DIN mounted breakers?


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