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Old 03-30-2013, 10:01 PM   #21
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I guess it begs the question what's taking so long for europeans to have the same explosion of microbreweries that the U.S. has had. Ours being driven by the massive amount of crap being forced down our throats. Rebellion ensued. Europe's baseline was so much better, but still, where are all the little guys. Btw 8 microbreweries opened in mpls in the past year.

 
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:08 PM   #22
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Also off topic. Summit is expanding, Surly is building a new $20+ million brewery. Most micros around here keep expanding. I guess we get really thirsty shoveling and swatting mosquitos.

 
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Old 03-31-2013, 02:02 AM   #23
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I guess it begs the question what's taking so long for europeans to have the same explosion of microbreweries that the U.S. has had. Ours being driven by the massive amount of crap being forced down our throats. Rebellion ensued. Europe's baseline was so much better, but still, where are all the little guys. Btw 8 microbreweries opened in mpls in the past year.
I love every time I am in a brewpub/restaurant and I see someone who clearly has never drank real beer...then they take a drink...the confused look on their face as they stare at the mug...another drink...and then it happens - one more American wakes up from the fog of mass marketing and discovers that there is beer that taste good.
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:31 AM   #24
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don't care- great beer is made in America- if Europe doesn't wanna drink it that is their loss- we took the best from them and made it better- the American way. Besides Guinness- what beer comes out of Europe that is better than what you can find at your local craft brew pub?

 
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:21 AM   #25
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Do you want the short list or the long list answer to that question?

The problem is not one of quality, it is of transport and ageing along the way. Good beer is almost invariably fresh, so each country thinks their own beer is the best because it is what's served in the most ideal condition.

 
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:01 AM   #26
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I think Belgium is an interesting story. They make beers that us Americans dream of and drool over- Westvleteren 12 sold for $80 a six pack when sold here!

Yet, in Belgium most beer drinkers are simple lager drinkers. Not that I don't like lager, I love lagers, but compared to Westlveteren or Duvel or any of the great Belgians they "pale" in comparison.

Lagers dominate the globe. European lagers are better than American lagers, in large part- and lagers don't ship very well at all.

We who enjoy DIPAs, while a growing minority, are still a tiny portion of the global market.

I wonder how well a DIPA travels, wasn't super hoppy beer originally designed to overcome the challenges of transportation?

I believe as more Europeans try American crafts, the demand will grow in the long term.

I think there will also be massive consolidations at the high volume level of the craft industry. It will be a fascinating development.
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