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Old 05-06-2013, 01:59 PM   #31
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How do you get rid of that twang?
Late extract additions will give cleaner flavor & lighter color. Use maybe 1/3 extract at the begining,the rest at flame out after hop additions.
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Old 05-06-2013, 04:13 PM   #32
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Blame the brewer,not the brew.
I think "garbage in, garbage out" is more appropriate.

 
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Old 05-06-2013, 04:20 PM   #33
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I think "garbage in, garbage out" is more appropriate.
Not really. If you can't make a good beer out of something simple,how're you going to make a good beer out of a complex one? I personally think the Cooper's Original Series is brewed with bittering only to give the beginner a place to start experimenting while keeping it simple.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:01 PM   #35
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I view Cooper's kits as beer ingredients. When I started off they were the only ingredient (plus dextrose I guess). Then I added another ingredient, DME. Then I added steeping grains. Then I added hops. Then I added 2-row (partial mashing). Then I added chocolate and lactose. Then I swapped out the yeast. You get the picture.

So far at the base of nearly every beer I've made you'll find a Cooper's kit (or two, Stout/Dark Ale tocan for instance). I'm still experimenting and having fun (ie. not bored). The beers have been interesting and sometimes pretty good.

 
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My dark hybrid lager is based on a Cooper's can. I added a small partial mash & German ale/kolsh yeast. Just had to revisit my days of recombinent extract with Cooper's.
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