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Old 03-18-2013, 10:36 PM   #11
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@ Schol: not much of that gear available i Denmark. but I will definitely go for a part boil kit once i get this right. i need a succes to move on


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Old 03-18-2013, 10:39 PM   #12
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Second fermentation? i only have one bucket.
do not worry about secondary, you don't need to do it. 3 weeks in the fermenter (primary), then 21 days in the bottle.

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I think Ive read somewhere that you could replace the enhancer with plain sugar?
i'm not familiar with these kits, but sugar only adds alcohol to a beer. i suspect that this "enhancer" is doing the same. if you have a homebrew supply shop nearby (or order online), try adding some malt extract instead. that will provide beer flavor, instead of just pure alcohol.

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My temp. was 21C (from denmark, sorry)
21C = 70F. was that 21C air temperature, or were you able to measure the beer's actual temperature? beer produces heat as it ferments, so while the air might have been 21 the beer was likely several degrees warmer. 19 is a good temperature to aim for (for the beer). do a search on this forum for "swamp cooler" - a good cheap way to lower the temp of your fermenter a few degrees.


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Old 03-18-2013, 10:40 PM   #13
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just keep the bottles for 3 to 4 weeks on room temps, part of the fruity smell and taste wil fade out. 1 week of conditioning, and 2 week in the cooler is to short and to low temps for the yeast to clean up after the fermentationparty
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:02 PM   #14
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i still have a few of the spoiled bottles i the fridge in the shack. its been about 7 weeks since i bottled it. any chance its gone good?

i wasnt able to meassure the "beer" itself. but the sticky thermometer said 21-22C.

2 x 3 weeks it is.

and when the yeast has stopped foaming and the brew is nice and quit after a few day, i remove the krausen collar? and then i leave it?
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:11 PM   #15
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Second fermentation? i only have one bucket.

I think Ive read somewhere that you could replace the enhancer with plain sugar?

i used the yeast from the kit

My temp. was 21C (from denmark, sorry)

@union: Im not ready to experiment just yet. i really need to get this right. Do you have second fermentation.

@MX1: 21 days at each step. sound easy. But it is definitely not what the box is saying
I don't use a secondary unless I'm oaking or something that's best done off the yeast. Otherwise,I leave it in primary till it's cleared up or slightly misty. Cooper's kits work well with the primary only method. I even dry hop in primary when the beer clears up for 7 days.
21c=69.8F,so that's not bad,but 18-20C would be better. 21 days equals 3 weeks. 3 weeks in primary & 3 weeks in the bottles @ 70.16F (21.2C),70F being normal carbonation & conditioning temp here. Then at least 1 week in the fridge to get co2 into solution & decent head/carbonation in the glass. This also gives time for any chill haze to settle out.
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Look here, not sure how muc shipping will be. I just moved from Belgium, and these are the guys i used a lot.

Can you share a link to the equipment you are using, was it a starter kit? ANd they are right, you dont have to scondary, it is just something I do.
Let the beer sit in the fermentor for 3 week, no need to mess with anything, the Krausen will fall back to the bottom. 21-22 on the bucket...might want to set up a larger tub of water you can put your fermenting bucket in, and keep the water cool with some ice bottles, this will lower your fermenting temp.

If it is just fruity, then it is not ruined, it is just not what you wanted...let it ride, learn from this brew, and your next will be better.

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Old 03-18-2013, 11:35 PM   #17
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http://things-4-you.dk/hjemmebrygnin...tsaet-488.html

the fermenting bucket has a plastic collar inside where the krausen stick and you can take it out after the krausen has stuck to it. then it is out of the fermentation bucket

ok. i think im set.

will have a look at the Fruity one tomorrow anyway.

Wheat going down tomorrow as well.

thanks guys!
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Second fermentation? i only have one bucket.

I think Ive read somewhere that you could replace the enhancer with plain sugar?

i used the yeast from the kit

My temp. was 21C (from denmark, sorry)

@union: Im not ready to experiment just yet. i really need to get this right. Do you have second fermentation.

@MX1: 21 days at each step. sound easy. But it is definitely not what the box is saying
I leave everything in the primary for 4 weeks plus. The 21 day thing is pretty solid advice. Screw the box.
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the fermenting bucket has a plastic collar inside where the krausen stick and you can take it out after the krausen has stuck to it. then it is out of the fermentation bucket
Huh. I've never seen such a thing. That's kind of clever. It doesn't seem necessary, though, as the beer stone ring left behind by the krausen tends to stay put above the level of the beer.
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the fermenting bucket has a plastic collar inside where the krausen stick and you can take it out after the krausen has stuck to it. then it is out of the fermentation bucket
this seems like an unnecessary step. the krausen isn't a bad thing that you need to avoid. and you shouldn't open up your fermenter more than you have to - leave the beer alone! introducing a whole lot of air while removing this collar, for the questionable benefit of removing krausen, doesn't make sense to me.


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