Keggle question - Page 2 - Home Brew Forums
Register Now For Free!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > Keggle question

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-15-2013, 04:05 PM   #11
J8D
 
J8D's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
Tampa, Florida
Posts: 245
Liked 10 Times on 8 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by KegWrangler View Post
You could always add a little water throughout the boil to keep it at 14-14.5 gallons (a pint here a pint there). Then just add the last little bit to hit 15 gallons at the end.
This would get you or keep you at 15 gallons but would absolutely destroy your calculated IBUs. Everytime you add water your boil is going to stop. So you would never really know what your IBUs were unless you stopped your timer and restarted it at the boiling point you were previously boiling at. This would also make replicating the beer (if it happened to turn out magical) nearly impossible since the actual amount of time you were boiling would never be the same.
__________________
J8D

---------------------------------------------
Stout Faucet: Guinness Clone
Faucet 1: Tongue Twister IIPA
Faucet 2: American White
Faucet 3: Wheat #2
Satellite Faucet: Walking Dead Guy Ale
Primary 1/2: Simcoe Pale Ale
Secondary 1/2: What You Do IPA

Upcoming Brews: Belgian Pale Ale

Total gallons brewed: 470 gallons

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 04:44 PM   #12
KegWrangler
Recipes 
 
Jan 2013
Silverdale, WA
Posts: 142
Liked 42 Times on 29 Posts


Not if it was hot (almost boiling) water. Like from a "hot-pot" kettle.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 04:52 PM   #13
J8D
 
J8D's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
Tampa, Florida
Posts: 245
Liked 10 Times on 8 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by KegWrangler View Post
Not if it was hot (almost boiling) water. Like from a "hot-pot" kettle.
If it was at a full boil and did not stop the wort from boiling, then yes that would work. Of if it was an African Swallow.
__________________
J8D

---------------------------------------------
Stout Faucet: Guinness Clone
Faucet 1: Tongue Twister IIPA
Faucet 2: American White
Faucet 3: Wheat #2
Satellite Faucet: Walking Dead Guy Ale
Primary 1/2: Simcoe Pale Ale
Secondary 1/2: What You Do IPA

Upcoming Brews: Belgian Pale Ale

Total gallons brewed: 470 gallons

KegWrangler Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 04:59 PM   #14
Big_Cat
 
Big_Cat's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Sep 2012
Aventura, Florida
Posts: 428
Liked 18 Times on 17 Posts


Sooooooo it is possible ......but you'll be making a 12 gallon batch with 15 gallon grain bill making your wort concentrated and then add three gallons of chilled water helping you cool your wort to pitch?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 05:11 PM   #15
Nightshade
Recipes 
 
Apr 2012
Richland, WA
Posts: 1,421
Liked 193 Times on 150 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Cat View Post
Sooooooo it is possible ......but you'll be making a 12 gallon batch with 15 gallon grain bill making your wort concentrated and then add three gallons of chilled water helping you cool your wort to pitch?
I don't see a reason that wouldn't work unless there is a chemical reaction I am missing.
__________________
Catch the next Triple Barrel Brewcast Broadcasting now 4/1/13 tune in and enjoy
Twitter: @3bblcast

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 05:27 PM   #16
J8D
 
J8D's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jul 2009
Tampa, Florida
Posts: 245
Liked 10 Times on 8 Posts


The funny part is, I have been wanting to do it too but never really thought it through since I sort of assumed by keggle limited me (I never considered adding the water). My next question is, since I use RO water, and build it based on style, would I just be adding RO water with no salts added for the final 3 gallons? ? This would also allow me to chill my wort much faster if I had the water just above freezing, or even just freeze it. MMMMMmmmmm.....thanks Big Cat. I may have to give this a shot.
__________________
J8D

---------------------------------------------
Stout Faucet: Guinness Clone
Faucet 1: Tongue Twister IIPA
Faucet 2: American White
Faucet 3: Wheat #2
Satellite Faucet: Walking Dead Guy Ale
Primary 1/2: Simcoe Pale Ale
Secondary 1/2: What You Do IPA

Upcoming Brews: Belgian Pale Ale

Total gallons brewed: 470 gallons

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 06:02 PM   #17
KegWrangler
Recipes 
 
Jan 2013
Silverdale, WA
Posts: 142
Liked 42 Times on 29 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by J8D View Post
If it was at a full boil and did not stop the wort from boiling, then yes that would work. Of if it was an African Swallow.
But African swallows are non-migratory.

Channel66 Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 09:54 PM   #18
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jun 2006
UP of Michigan, Winter Texan
Posts: 69,762
Liked 8028 Times on 5608 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
I don't see a reason that wouldn't work unless there is a chemical reaction I am missing.
There are only two considerations I can think of. One is maillard reactions- so if you were doing, say a Scottish 80 +/-, or another beer where you wanted to really have toasty maillard reactions it could be an issue. I think that's a very minor concern, though, and really nothing to worry about.

The other is hops utilization. If you were making a 75 IBU beer, I don't think it would be possible to do that with the addition of three gallons of water (1/5 of the volume).

Otherwise, I can't see an issue.
__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 10:02 PM   #19
Channel66
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Channel66's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Mar 2012
, Maine
Posts: 2,838
Liked 1050 Times on 683 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Yooper View Post
There are only two considerations I can think of. One is maillard reactions- so if you were doing, say a Scottish 80 +/-, or another beer where you wanted to really have toasty maillard reactions it could be an issue. I think that's a very minor concern, though, and really nothing to worry about.

The other is hops utilization. If you were making a 75 IBU beer, I don't think it would be possible to do that with the addition of three gallons of water (1/5 of the volume).

Otherwise, I can't see an issue.
I would think that it would be best to mash 15 gallons worth, and split it into a 5 gallon batch and a 10 gallon batch, adjusting your hops schedule for the boil volumes then combining the two. But I dont think this is the direction the OP was headed with the question.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2013, 10:26 PM   #20
Transamguy77
Recipes 
 
Apr 2011
Atascadero, Ca
Posts: 1,061
Liked 87 Times on 77 Posts


I have done it, I have a 3 keggle system and I made 15 gallons twice. What I did was have a grain bill for 15 gallons and sparge for 15 gallons and took a second pot and drained 5ish gallons of run off and put it aside. The first time I added it back at 15 and brought back to a boil, the second time I added it back through out the boil. So it can be done just have to get creative.

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
keggle question kosmokramer Equipment/Sanitation 16 02-03-2012 01:57 PM
Keggle Question LumberjackJohn Equipment/Sanitation 8 06-29-2010 06:48 PM
Question on new keggle egaberik Equipment/Sanitation 5 03-04-2010 03:12 AM
keggle question libs Equipment/Sanitation 1 08-26-2007 02:22 PM
Keggle question 2nd Street Brewery Equipment/Sanitation 17 11-03-2006 07:57 PM


Forum Jump