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Old 03-16-2013, 09:21 PM   #31
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It probably doesn't make any difference in this case, but check out the laws regarding "Adverse Possession" for valid reasons to enforce control over your parking lot.


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Old 03-18-2013, 09:49 PM   #32
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There was no written parking violation it was in a private lot. Simply writing to the credit card company that you were under duress and you felt threatened for your safety if you didn't pay should be enough to result in a chargeback. I would tell the truth, not pretend like I didn't sign it.

***I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.***

Coming from a previous retail job I can tell you as a matter of fact that people dispute grocery bills every day.
You would think that this would work, but it won't. I used to work in the disputes department for a major credit card company.

The standard response to "I didn't want to sign it but I felt threatened." was "I certanily understand. Did you contact be police during or after the event? If so, please send me a copy of the police report to support your claim. There is nothing in the Visa/MC regulations that would allow me to directly reverse the charges you agreed to, but with the police report I can attempt to negotiate a settlement in your favor with their bank." Every time I got a police report, we either got the settlement from the other bank, or the company I worked for simply ate the charges as a courtesy. For less than $100, we would probably simply eat the charge instead of the extra paperwork and time of fighting with the other bank.

To the original poster, I wonder what would have happened if you had looked at the guy that was booting your car and said something like "What are you doing, I just ran over to the other bar to make sure my friend wasn't there by mistake, then walked into the establishment that owned the parking lot. Had one beer and walked out. All it would have cost you was one beer, and a bit of time.


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Old 03-19-2013, 12:11 AM   #33
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I understand it sucks to pay a ticket for parking illegally. You've learned an expensive lesson and probably will never do it again. That being said, people use the same excuses all the time when they want to park where they want to park, regardless of the posted rules/penalties.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:46 AM   #34
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To the original poster, I wonder what would have happened if you had looked at the guy that was booting your car and said something like "What are you doing, I just ran over to the other bar to make sure my friend wasn't there by mistake, then walked into the establishment that owned the parking lot. Had one beer and walked out. All it would have cost you was one beer, and a bit of time.
Now this is smooth...I wouldn't have thought of this in the moment of rage, but it certainly would have worked!
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:53 PM   #35
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I don't know if that would have worked either.

In these situations I would have told the tow driver that he was also parked illegally (his vehicle is not moving is it? is in the parking lot?) unless he plans on getting a bite to eat. I would also proceed to stand in front of every wheel or area in which he decided to "disable" the moving of my vehicle.

There are also some cities in which idling your vehicle while not being in it is actually illegal. So the tow truck driver would either have had to park, illegally in regards to the idiot restaurant owner, or illegally for the town/city.

As a result of the above I also hate driving/parking in the city, any city.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:09 PM   #36
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I don't know if that would have worked either.

In these situations I would have told the tow driver that he was also parked illegally (his vehicle is not moving is it? is in the parking lot?) unless he plans on getting a bite to eat. I would also proceed to stand in front of every wheel or area in which he decided to "disable" the moving of my vehicle.

There are also some cities in which idling your vehicle while not being in it is actually illegal. So the tow truck driver would either have had to park, illegally in regards to the idiot restaurant owner, or illegally for the town/city.

As a result of the above I also hate driving/parking in the city, any city.
Generally there are exceptions for emergency vehicles and tow trucks that require some amount of idling to operate their equipment, or that might need to be in a location that passenger cars are not normally allowed.
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Apparently the guy has a webcam set up to watch the parking lot. As soon as he sees you leave and not walk to his restaurant, he calls in the doucehbags to come boot you.
Owning a parking lot is expensive. If I owned a restaurant and caught people parking on my property for free, and then walking across the street to my competitor, I'd certainly ticket/tow/boot them too. The restaurant owner is not in the business of providing free parking for his competition.

I think the boot was a little heavy-handed, but I kind of sympathize with the restaurant owner here.
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One more thing: Anyone ever watch that TV show "Parking Wars" on A&E? I've seen a few episodes, and I have to say, I have yet to see a single incident in which I felt sympathy for the person getting towed/booted. In every case, they had it coming. Without exception, I feel worse for the poor city workers trying to keep the streets/parking lots flowing as intended than I do for the poor sap who parked by the hydrant "just for 2 minutes" while they ran in and ordered a pizza.
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Dealing with parking woes at a business is one thing. Dealing with it where you live is another thing entirely.

I have friends in apartments who can only have one guest over at a time because they only have 1 guest parking pass and if you don't have a resident sticker or guest pass you get towed! What a way to live! I'm so thankful I live in the country and could park 100 vehicles in my front yard if I wanted to and no one could say anything to me.


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