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Old 03-13-2013, 04:49 PM   #1
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Hi All,

I wanted to start this thread because I think at a minimum I want to make you all consider other options for buying grain. NCM has arbitrarily increased grain pricing by over 20% to all those in the home brewing community. They have made good money from us based on our buying power and now they have decided to give us the slight of hand. When a business makes this sort of a decision I think we all as buyers should consider whether we should continue buying from them. The intent, I am sure, is to increase the price and lower the volume. However they will retain a typical sales revenue that is much the same as before, yet we will all get significantly less product.

I am not here to start a revolution, or coordinate anything. I just want to make you all think about how you can vote with your wallet and send NCM a message.

Please consider finding other suppliers, circumventing the rules in any legal way that you can.

Please use this thread to post your thoughts on the recent occurrence and perhaps we will come up with a better resolution for all of this.

For those of you who have found local breweries to support your buy - kudos in bypassing the price change to NCM.

Best to all,

CLICK HERE for the BUYING POLICY INFORMATION:



Old pricing details:
To see the catalog, go to:http://www.countrymaltgroup.com/download.asp?f=f6
The password is "CMGCHAMP".


Other Malt Suppliers List:

1. Valley Malt http://www.valleymalt.com/ (Massachusetts)

2. Brewers Supply Group bought Crosby & Baker (homebrew shop supplier)
http://www.brewerssupplygroup.com/home.html
http://bsghandcraft.com/index.php/home/

3. http://www.gwkent.com/brewery/ingredients.html?cat=166

Coop start up info:

http://www.ncba.coop/

http://www.sba.gov/content/cooperative


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Are there other major distributors? has anyone contacted them?


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Old 03-13-2013, 05:19 PM   #3
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Are there other major distributors? has anyone contacted them?
This depends on your location. But what would be great would be to get a list going of potential companies. I would rather pay the same price NCM is offering from another vendor at this point.

I could keep a list running on post 1 as they come in - please post them. I will start with valley malt (see link above)
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I wonder if we could figure out how much grain HBT members have bought from them over the years and let them know what they are losing. They probably don't give a hoot but still it would send a message.
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Are there other major distributors? has anyone contacted them?
Brewers Supply Group bought Crosby & Baker (homebrew shop supplier)

http://www.brewerssupplygroup.com/home.html
http://bsghandcraft.com/index.php/home/


I haven't contacted them, but it may be worth a try...
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I wonder if we could figure out how much grain HBT members have bought from them over the years and let them know what they are losing. They probably don't give a hoot but still it would send a message.
It would be interesting to know. However they increased the price, so my interpretation is that they are hoping to make the same money, by selling less grain. So higher cost, less product. At the end they still make the same money, we just get less because we are home brewers.

Cranny04 - thanks and I added your links to post 1
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Brewers Supply Group bought Crosby & Baker (homebrew shop supplier)

http://www.brewerssupplygroup.com/home.html
http://bsghandcraft.com/index.php/home/


I haven't contacted them, but it may be worth a try...
From the brewersupply website

Importantly, the “new” BSG we will continue to carry the portfolio of brands of both previously separate
companies. As we go forward, therefore, you can rely on the same inventory for your business as in the
past! The “new” BSG will also continue the old C&B policy of never selling directly to end-users—not in
person, and not online!

 
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It would be interesting to know. However they increased the price, so my interpretation is that they are hoping to make the same money, by selling less grain. So higher cost, less product. At the end they still make the same money, we just get less because we are home brewers.

Cranny04 - thanks and I added your links to post 1
I was thinking the same thing. If they increased prices 40% they can afford to loose 30 % of their volume and still come out even.

 
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Hi All,

I wanted to start this thread because I think at a minimum I want to make you all consider other options for buying grain. NCM has arbitrarily increased grain pricing by over 20% to all those in the home brewing community.
Can I ask where you got this information?



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