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Old 03-06-2013, 10:10 PM   #1
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What temp should I make my 2L yeast starter? I'm using Wyeast California Lager yeast.

Do I make it 1-2 days before I pitch? I've only made ale yeast starters before and I didn't know if the time and temps were the same.

 
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:26 PM   #2
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Thre's a video on Northern Brewer's website/You Tube that says even lager starters should ferment at warmer temperatures normally associated with ales - 70-75F.

 
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:32 PM   #3
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Normal room temps...you're trying to grow yeast, not make good-tasting beer. Treat it like an ale starter, just make it bigger (need more yeast for lagers)

 
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:40 AM   #4
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Is a 2L starter big enough? I don't have a stir plate :/

 
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:58 AM   #5
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Is a 2L starter big enough? I don't have a stir plate :/
Plug your numbers into Yeastcalc.com...I'm guessing it's not.

And honestly, I've noticed my yeast is considerably better after the first generation. So I might consider brewing a small batch of something, ferment it warmer with the lager yeast, harvest it, then pitch the slurry into your lager. More steps, but I think you'll get better results. Or just buy more yeast.

 
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:34 PM   #6
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2L is definitely not enough. Without a stir plate, and a low-gravity lager (1.040) you'll need ~5L of starter for your lager IF and ONLY IF your yeast was made yesterday and you made your starter today. If your yeast is older (it is) and your beer is bigger (it might be) you will likely need even more yeast.

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Old 03-07-2013, 08:20 PM   #7
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Similar question.

I'm making my first starter (finally). I'm brewing a maibock. I was curious if it mattered what DME was used. Do you want one similar to the style you are brewing?

 
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Similar question.

I'm making my first starter (finally). I'm brewing a maibock. I was curious if it mattered what DME was used. Do you want one similar to the style you are brewing?
Not really, especially for lagers since you'll decant off most of the spent beer anyway due to the size of the starter. If your beer is lighter though, you definitely don't want to darken it with darker extract in your starter.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:47 PM   #9
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I'm gonna do a double starter batch. One today, then decant and make another Saturday morning. The problem is that I only have 1.5c of DME. should I split between them both 50/50?

I usually use 1c for a 2L batch. If I use .75c, how much wort shld I make each starter?

 
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:27 AM   #10
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Why do you folks switch to liters for starters and use gallons, pints, ounces etc elsewhere?
Why is it necessary or beneficial to decant tbe clearer liquid from tne starter before pitching? I don't and I'm pretty happy with all my brews.

 
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