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Old 03-19-2013, 04:58 PM   #21
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Whoops, I missed a key word there: I WON'T need a tertiary.

If I would have added the grapes to the secondary, I'd probably have to rack again at some point. Now I can skip it if I'm adding it to the primary.

 
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:53 AM   #22
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Whoops, I missed a key word there: I WON'T need a tertiary.

If I would have added the grapes to the secondary, I'd probably have to rack again at some point. Now I can skip it if I'm adding it to the primary.
I thought you were adding grape concentrate, not grapes. The concentrate shouldn't leave anything behind.

If you are going to add the Brett in a secondary fermenter, you probably want to rack the beer while some of the sacc is still active. As the sacc flocs out and dies, it provides food for the Brett.

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Old 04-02-2013, 12:19 PM   #23
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Another brief update:

A little over a week ago I added the sauvignon blanc concentrate to the tripel. On 3/31 I racked into a carboy with the Brett B starter. It's currently in my fermentation chamber at 72 degrees for what will probably be a long haul. I'll give it a month or so before checking for taste/gravity.

 
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:09 PM   #24
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It's currently in my fermentation chamber at 72 degrees for what will probably be a long haul. I'll give it a month or so before checking for taste/gravity.
72*F is fine, but it's even a bit on the warm side. feel free to drop the temps a little if you need to (and save on electricity). mid-60's is fine for brett. supposedly russian river ages all their bugs in the low 60's. no real difference, whatever works for you :-)

hopefully you took a gravity reading just before racking to secondary so you have a solid idea where the brett is starting from.
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I just had it at 72 from the last couple of beers I fermented in it (Belgian pale and the tripel that has the Brett now). I used WY 3522, which I find is too mild in the 60's. I'll turn it down b/c there's really no reason is needs to be that high. I also have a sour stout with Roeselare fermenting in there also which is good from 65-85.

Gravity immediately before racking was 1.012.

 
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:14 PM   #26
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I like this thread, interested to see how this turns out. But I would have dropped that concentrate in at flame out. You're adding alot of sugar to secondary.

 
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:30 PM   #27
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I like this thread, interested to see how this turns out. But I would have dropped that concentrate in at flame out. You're adding alot of sugar to secondary.
I actually added it in primary and let the concentrate ferment mostly out before racking. The sacch got it back down to 1.012 even after the concentrate before the Brett had to deal with it.
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had the OP added the juice directly to secondary, there is more than enough yeast in there to ferment it out completely.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:14 PM   #29
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If I had to do it again, I probably would have added it to the secondary. For some reason, I thought it was just going to be crushed, packed grapes, not the liquid it was. I have no idea why I thought that, but whatever. I doubt it made much, if any difference.

Shot of the tripel on the left, sour stout on the right. Obviously no activity from the Brett yet, but I'll post some pictures once there is some.


 
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Muscat grape juice has been used in DFH's Midas Touch since the original recipe found in King Midas' tomb from over 2,700 years ago. Not an ale,not a wine,but some combo of both. There's a thread at the top of the page in one of those forums about it.
This.

And to me without trying to recreate or brew the Midas touch, a Tripel seems PERFECT to add grape concentrate to.
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