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Old 09-21-2007, 07:58 PM   #1
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What are peoples opinions on using bleach to sanitize, air dry versus rinsing with sink water.


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Old 09-21-2007, 08:01 PM   #2
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What are peoples opinions on using bleach to sanitize, air dry versus rinsing with sink water.
In order:

1. Iodaphor
2. Starsan
3. Bleach
4. Urine.


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When I used bleach I always rinsed because I hated risking having any of that bleach taste carry over to my beer. I figure if I considered my tap water good enough to top off the fermenter after a partial boil, then using it to rinse after sanitizing couldn't be too bad either.

With that said, let me be the first (edit: errr... second) to recommend using a better sanitizer, such as starsan which is absolutely amazing, and I'd say worth every penny for the convenience and time savings.
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Always rinse bleach.
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Are you asking if you should rinse bleach or if it better to rinse and air-dry. Like^^^
said..........ALWAYS rinse bleach. Then rinse. Then rinse. Then rinse. Then buy Starsan.
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If you use urine I would rinse with bleach then water then starsan
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What are peoples opinions on using bleach to sanitize, air dry versus rinsing with sink water.
Bleach decomposes into salt and HTH. Neither is good for flavor...
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:25 AM   #8
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In order:

1. Iodaphor
2. Starsan
3. Bleach
4. Urine.
Why put Iodophor above Star-San?
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:39 AM   #9
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Bleach is an excellent cleaner and sanitiser, personally I soak everything in a 5% bleach solution for 20-30 mins at a rate of approx 2 1/2 cups per 3 US gals to clean it after use. (if I have done the metric imperial conversion correctly)

(actually I use antiformin s, the stuff the major breweries use although it is very similar to bleach except is contains more caustic)

Once its clean, rinse thoroughly, allow to dry and store, then when once you need to use it, give everything a quick spray with iodophor or star san and 30 seconds later it's ready to go.

This is basically what the commercial breweries do although they will more than likely use peracetic acid as the no rinse sanitiser of choice.

If you do sanitize with bleach use the minimum recommended dilution which I believe Palmer recommends as 1 tsp per gallon and rinse thoroughly. If your tap water is treated by the water company (ie not from a well in the ground) it is perfectly ok to rinse with it.

If you acidify your bleach solution you can use a much lower dosage of bleach and there is no need to rinse (just air dry), if you get the acidification process wrong though it could potentially be hazardous, it's quite simple and is described by Charley Talley of Five Star Chemicals on one of the Brewing Network pod casts. It's not a new concept though and has been used in the food and beverage industry for years. There is a handy PDF document about it here... http://osuextra.okstate.edu/pdfs/FAPC-116web.pdf
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Why put Iodophor above Star-San?
I like it better since it's non foaming and I've had more successfull brews when I use Iodaphor. It's a preference, that's all. Plus, Iodaphor is so much cheaper.


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