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Old 02-25-2013, 04:22 PM   #1
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Default New Kettle- best way to use it?

I have a new 10 Gallon Blichmann kettle with the false bottom feature for mash/lauter. My other pot is a 30qt turkey fryer pot that I have been using to brew with for about 6 months. 5 gallons batches are my interest.

I am thinking of using the Blichmann as a mash/lauter tun in a sort of BIAB method. Mashing the correct grain/volume, heating the sparge water in the turkey pot, and then adding the sparge water to the kettle. Then a drain off to the turkey pot.

I have the feeling that I am not thinking this through properly. Can anyone give some pointers on all grain with this set-up?


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Old 02-25-2013, 04:29 PM   #2
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The way I'm reading this, it sounds like you're saying you won't be collecting multiple runnings, just adding the hot sparge water to your mash after conversion, no? In this case, it basically just serves to bring your mash up to mash-out temp. Since you have the false bottom, there's really no reason to use a bag. Really, you could use any of the popular techniques. Have you considered trying a modified fly sparge? Basically, once your mash is complete, start draining your first runnings (fairly slowly) then ladling sparge water into your mash at around the same rate it is flowing out. For a 5 gallon batch, this might take 20 minutes max, and you'll get mad efficiency. Maybe that didn't answer your question...


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Thank you for helping Brulosopher!

I guess it does mean that I am trying avoid multiple runnings. And it might be because I don't have that third pot yet.

Right now, just the two pots is what I have... one for the mash/lauter tun (it's the only one big enough for the 7+ gallon boil), and one for heating the sparge water.

Maybe I just need to get the third one. I figured that the hot wort would ruin the plastic fermenting buckets or leach chemicals into the wort.
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Thank you for helping Brulosopher!

I guess it does mean that I am trying avoid multiple runnings. And it might be because I don't have that third pot yet.

Right now, just the two pots is what I have... one for the mash/lauter tun (it's the only one big enough for the 7+ gallon boil), and one for heating the sparge water.

Maybe I just need to get the third one. I figured that the hot wort would ruin the plastic fermenting buckets or leach chemicals into the wort.
Eh, I've use the same bucket on double batch brew days for the last 5 years... and I'm still alive . Go ahead and do it, you'll get better efficiency that way.
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Eh, I've use the same bucket on double batch brew days for the last 5 years... and I'm still alive . Go ahead and do it, you'll get better efficiency that way.
OK. I need a picture. Are you saying I can drain the hot wort into the plastic bucket and then transfer to boil? I apologize up front for the ignorance.
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OK. I need a picture. Are you saying I can drain the hot wort into the plastic bucket and then transfer to boil? I apologize up front for the ignorance.
That's exactly what I'm saying
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I have a new 10 Gallon Blichmann kettle with the false bottom feature for mash/laughter. My other pot is a 30qt turkey fryer pot that I have been using to brew with for about 6 months. 5 gallons batches are my interest.

I am thinking of using the Blichmann as a mash/lauter tun in a sort of BIAB method. Mashing the correct grain/volume, heating the sparge water in the turkey pot, and then adding the sparge water to the kettle. Then a drain off to the turkey pot.

I have the feeling that I am not thinking this through properly. Can anyone give some pointers on all grain with this set-up?
A 10 gallon Blichmann with false bottom would be ideal for full volume, single vessel 5 gallon BIAB batches. My friend and I use a 20 gallon Blichmann with false bottom to do the same, but for 10 gallon batches. The false bottom serves no purpose during the mash but it is a great filter for break and hops when transferring to the fermenter.
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Brulosopher and robcj,
You guys have given me the ideas that I needed. I'll give it a try both ways.

The ladling method for fly sparge sounds ideal.

I might not understand the BIAB method thoroughly, is there a need to remove the false bottom for the boil?... to prevent scorching of the trapped trub? It sure would be handy to just lift the grains out and proceed to boil.

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Is someone using the boilermaker with the false bottom to boil in? I'd be worried about scorching the relative small volume wort below the false bottom. Maybe it wouldn't but I am not sure.
The guy Lonny Mac who popularized the "Brutus 10" DIY brew rig has a different setup now that uses two vessels. You might look that up on his webpage as I am not very familiar with it, but recall seeing in a year or more ago.
Hot wort and plastic buckets are fine. Papazain had advocated mashing and sparing with them as a cheap mash tun.
One trick I've used and that's to put a clean muslin sack or nylon hop straining back on the end of the tube I use to run off to boil kettle to catch any particles of grain that didn't get filtered by the false bottom. Anyway, I think I'm drifting off topic now..
Enjoy your new Blichmann!
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BIAB, brew in a bag for a five gallon batch in a ten gallon pot is very simple! Heat 7 gallons to 160 degrees, add grain in grain bag and keep at 150 - 155 degrees for an hour, stir well, remove bag and boil wort....done!

You can either insulate your kettle with blankets during the mash, or add slight heat to maintain temperature.


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