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Old 05-14-2013, 04:20 PM   #31
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UPDATE, My wife did some research and came up with, hydrogen peroxided will kill lactobacillus, (always good to have a second set of eyes looking)

The recommended mix was, 50/50 hydrogen peroxide and water, soak items in that mix for 36 hours.

We tried it and it worked great even on hoses and rubber bungs.

Just thought I should share this info.

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Old 05-14-2013, 10:00 PM   #32
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UPDATE, My wife did some research and came up with, hydrogen peroxided will kill lactobacillus, (always good to have a second set of eyes looking)

The recommended mix was, 50/50 hydrogen peroxide and water, soak items in that mix for 36 hours.

We tried it and it worked great even on hoses and rubber bungs.

Just thought I should share this info.

Cheers
Makes sense. Most things kill lacto, and peroxide kills most things.


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Makes sense. Most things kill lacto, and peroxide kills most things.
Hello dwarven_stout, Im Not trying to contradict you or start an argument, but from my personal experience and research most things don't kill lacto.

in-fact we tried all kinds of things to kill this lacto infection, even a bleach bombing at a 50/50 ratio, it didn't work, nothing we tried worked.

Hydrogen peroxide works great at killing this infection, and is the only thing that killed this bug.

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Old 05-15-2013, 10:26 PM   #34
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Hello dwarven_stout, Im Not trying to contradict you or start an argument, but from my personal experience and research most things don't kill lacto.

in-fact we tried all kinds of things to kill this lacto infection, even a bleach bombing at a 50/50 ratio, it didn't work, nothing we tried worked.

Hydrogen peroxide works great at killing this infection, and is the only thing that killed this bug.

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i'm surprised that you were not able to kill off a lactobacillius with bleach, it's not known to be immune to bleach or star san for that matter.
interestingly, some lactobacilli have a very high tolerance for hydrogen peroxide.
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i'm surprised that you were not able to kill off a lactobacillius with bleach, it's not known to be immune to bleach or star san for that matter.
interestingly, some lactobacilli have a very high tolerance for hydrogen peroxide.
This was a wild infection, I didn't have lab tested, so there is a possibility it could be something other than lacto.

I guess the "some lactobacilli" having a very high tolerance is why you have to soak items in the hydrogen peroxide for 36 hours to 48 hours to kill it off.

All I know is that hydrogen peroxided at a 50/50 mix (or stronger) worked for me, and nothing else worked.

and StarSan didn't even faze this bug, not in the least.

I was also able to reuse my plastics using this method, instead of throw them away, 6+ batches done now with these plastics and all is good.

I am sharing this information, to help others with an infection that seems to be immune to the common methods of dealing with infections.

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Update, I am around 25 batches down the road from this infection now and am still using some of the items that we soaked in Hydrogen Peroxide, still no problems, knock on wood.

My hope here is that this information will help give brewers suffering with a persistent infection another means to battle it.

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