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Old 02-13-2013, 11:37 PM   #1
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So I've got a black IPA I've had on tap for 12 days that seems to be developing an off aroma.

I dry hopped in the keg (cold with exception of 1st half day as it was cooling to serving temps) with 1 ounce of cascade whole leaf hops when kegging and even as little as 3 days ago it smelled floral, citrusy, and great. Well today I went to add an additional ounce of the same hops and noticed that the aroma had somewhat changed.

It now smells a little more grassy and very similar to what I've smelled with New Belgium's Ranger IPA lately. I wouldn't say it's horrible just not as good as it was at least to me. I added these loose since I have a dip tube screen and now feel like I might have to bottle the beer to get it off the hops since I don't have another keg and don't want the aroma to get worse and ruin my beer.

Anybody else have this happen and will it mellow with time?

 
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:19 AM   #2
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I think it will mellow. I've had that problem before and it got better. It never totally went away, but it wasn't as noticable after a few months. Did you taste it, or just smell it? How does it taste?
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:08 AM   #3
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How long was it dry-hop'd?
It's off the hops now I assume?
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:59 AM   #4
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I think it will mellow. I've had that problem before and it got better. It never totally went away, but it wasn't as noticable after a few months. Did you taste it, or just smell it? How does it taste?
I tasted it too and it tasted fine just the aroma was off.

Like I said it wasn't horrible but faintly noticeable. I went ahead and threw the other ounce of hops in there since I had already opened the bag so I guess we'll see.

If it gets any worse then I'll probably go ahead and bottle it off since I was planning to do that anyway to make room for a witbier I'm bout to brew but wasn't really planning to do that for another 2 weeks. I guess I'll bump that if I have to especially if the other ounce gets it smelling right again I'll go ahead and get it off the hops.

I guess I just didn't expect it to get grassy as quick since it was being cold hopped.

 
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:02 AM   #5
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How long was it dry-hop'd?
It's off the hops now I assume?
Only 12 days so far all in the keg in the kegerator at around 36-38 degrees with the first day prob in the 40's since it wasn't cold when I put it in.

No it's still on the hops for now at least.

 
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:06 AM   #6
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Try not to dry hop longer than 3-5 days. If you go longer you can start to pull that "stem" and grassy flavors your talking about. I used to dry hop for longer periods and I read about guys on here going long on dry hops all the time but I get better results with shorter soaks than longer ones.

 
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:31 AM   #7
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Try not to dry hop longer than 3-5 days. If you go longer you can start to pull that "stem" and grassy flavors your talking about. I used to dry hop for longer periods and I read about guys on here going long on dry hops all the time but I get better results with shorter soaks than longer ones.
Yeah this is my first time dry hopping and I thought it'd be cool to do it in the keg.

Everything I read said dry hopping cold in the keg took longer than at room temperature and that two weeks usually worked. A lot of guys were saying that typically 3-4 weeks was fine too which is what I originally planned but I'll definitely be doing it differently next time.

While I might still dry hop in the keg I'll be putting them in a bag from here on out so I can remove them when I want to avoid what I've got going on now.

 
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:53 AM   #8
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7 days is pretty standard, and never longer than 2 weeks is the rule of thumb.
I would transfer off the hops now if you're getting grass flavor.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:06 PM   #9
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I just finished off my black ipa that had zythos. It didn't have the aroma I was expecting, it had that grassy almost herbal smell. It also took it a few days for the aroma to kick in, all in all it was a strange hop in my opinion. It was a great beer, just aroma was off. I won't use it again for dryhopping.

What did you dry hop with?

 
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:33 PM   #10
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Definitely related to the dry hop. Five to seven days and then remove, and you still might have some grassy flavor.

Late hops additions is an alternative. A lot of pro brewers are moving to it to avoid the grassy flavors in their beers. Add a large amount of hops at zero in the boil and let them steep about 45 minutes before you chill your beer. I just put them in my brew pot with a sanitized lid over the top right at flameout and let them steep (this is easy with BIAB method). For a typical 5-6 gallon batch, you'll have to use 2-3 ounces of aroma/flavoring hops which seems like a lot, but it really works. I just had a friend hook me up with some Belma hops which smells like strawberry starburst candy. I can't wait to try this out as an aroma/flavoring hop.
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