My brother got a DUI. I need advice from those with "experience"... - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Community > General Chit Chat > My brother got a DUI. I need advice from those with "experience"...

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-12-2013, 12:00 AM   #1
bigbeergeek
Recipes 
 
Sep 2008
Visalia, CA
Posts: 4,089
Liked 122 Times on 100 Posts



My brother spent 14 hours in the county drunk tank last night. He allegedly swerved, was pulled over by highway patrol, passed his field test and proceeded to blow something high (perhaps a 0.2? He can't remember). He's guilty, he messed up big time, he could have hurt himself or the innocent and he deserves whatever's coming to him. I hope that covers the requisite judgement etc.

Does anyone have any advice on what to do/expect? He's in CA. His funds are limited so no DUI lawyer. Who has experience with DUIs?

Thanks all!
__________________
"Good people drink good beer." -HST

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 12:11 AM   #2
jakenbacon
 
jakenbacon's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2011
Glendale, AZ
Posts: 618
Liked 101 Times on 79 Posts


I do! I always laugh at that quote.... "A man who represents himself, has a fool for a lawyer" or however it goes.... But any who, because he blew so high, and probably told the police everything at the police station, have him go to the first court date, and plead not guilty, so that he can look over exactly what they are charging him with, with some time and peace. Then, when the second date arrives, if the charges seem legit and he knows he is responsible for those charges (not some other crazy charges they sometimes add to reem you) then go to the court date as determined, plead guilty, and get what you deserve. Jail is not that bad, the money they take from you is however, but then again he deserves it. A lawyer in a case like this is only going to take 5 grand and your bro will be left with the same charges. I received a DUI 2 months after I turned 21, best thing that ever happened to me, couldn't imagine hurting my family or some innocent one's now. I was so f**kin dumb.....

5
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 12:38 AM   #3
SpottedDogBrewing
Hmmm, BEER!
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
SpottedDogBrewing's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Apr 2008
Goodells, MICHIGAN
Posts: 1,468
Liked 53 Times on 47 Posts


Start going to some AA meetings, that will at least show you are looking for Help. I would guess if this is your first time and the counselor doesn't see you needing any extra help you may not get jail time but a hefty fine up to $1200-1500 plus have to attend a few AA meetings and meet with a court appointed counselor until they feel you are OK.
Wear some nice cloths , get a nice haircut, don't be a dick to the judge or you will get screwed.
__________________
Spotted Dog Brewing


"This is grain, which any fool can eat, but for which the Lord intended a more divine means of consumption.. Beer!"
-Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, Friar Tuck

"The nations of the West also have their own intoxicant, made from grain soaked in water...Alas, what wonderful ingenuity vice possesses! A method has actually been discovered for making even water intoxicated."
- Pliny the Elder

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 01:10 AM   #4
bigbeergeek
Recipes 
 
Sep 2008
Visalia, CA
Posts: 4,089
Liked 122 Times on 100 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by SpottedDogBrewing View Post
Start going to some AA meetings, that will at least show you are looking for Help. I would guess if this is your first time and the counselor doesn't see you needing any extra help you may not get jail time but a hefty fine up to $1200-1500 plus have to attend a few AA meetings and meet with a court appointed counselor until they feel you are OK.
Wear some nice cloths , get a nice haircut, don't be a dick to the judge or you will get screwed.
I'll pass the advice to my brother.
__________________
"Good people drink good beer." -HST

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 01:11 AM   #5
Billy-Klubb
HBT Berry Puncher
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
Billy-Klubb's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Nov 2012
Windom, MN
Posts: 11,608
Liked 5898 Times on 3469 Posts


and next time you see him, punch him in the ear. and hard.
__________________
There is a difference between pride and arrogance. Which do you hold in your heart?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Helen Williams View Post
"If ceramic squirrels are banned, only druks will have ceramic squirrels!"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randar View Post
I've plenty of legit material... No need to go making up quotes for your sig.

6
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 01:22 AM   #6
Cathedral
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
Cathedral's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Dec 2012
Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 917
Liked 282 Times on 200 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by SpottedDogBrewing View Post
Wear some nice cloths , get a nice haircut, don't be a dick to the judge or you will get screwed.
This is probably the best advice anyone could ever heed when going to court. I went to court once and the guy who went just before me talked back a little. He got thrown in jail for contempt of court. I went up there and "yes, ma'am" and "no, you honor"ed my ass off. I got off with a $20 fine.

As for the DUI, I was charged with one once. I hired a lawyer that cost me $3000 dollars and did absolutely nothing but keep extending the trial date.* We live in the 21st century--your brothers arrest was caught on multiple cameras and microphones. The best thing he can do, IMO, is to just be humble, admit guilt, and take what he deserves. He will be fined out the ass and might have to do a week in county, but that's not a big deal. He WILL lose his license but can get work priveleges. All in all the first DUI isn't bad. I've been through worse.

*side story: ironically, during the time he kept extending the date, the cop who arrested me was fired for police brutality. Thus, he couldn't show up to testify against me and I was let go. Then, even more ironically, the DUI lawyer later lost his license, and was sent to jail, for scamming his clients. Isn't life grand?
__________________
TOOTH:HURTY Picobrewery
On Deck:
Primary: empty :(
Kegged: empty :(

Johnnyhitch1 Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 01:34 AM   #7
TexasSpartan
Recipes 
 
Jan 2009
Dallas, TX
Posts: 752
Liked 23 Times on 19 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cathedral

As for the DUI, I was charged with one once. I hired a lawyer that cost me $3000 dollars and did absolutely nothing but keep extending the trial date.* We live in the 21st century--your brothers arrest was caught on multiple cameras and microphones. The best thing he can do, IMO, is to just be humble, admit guilt, and take what he deserves. He will be fined out the ass and might have to do a week in county, but that's not a big deal. He WILL lose his license but can get work priveleges. All in all the first DUI isn't bad. I've been through worse.

*side story: ironically, during the time he kept extending the date, the cop who arrested me was fired for police brutality. Thus, he couldn't show up to testify against me and I was let go. Then, even more ironically, the DUI lawyer later lost his license, and was sent to jail, for scamming his clients. Isn't life grand?
This is bad advice. Do not listen to this. Hire an attorney. If you cannot hire an attorney, see about getting a court appointed one. There is no reason whatsoever to go in and plead guilty if you don't have to.

It sounds like Cathedral beat the charge because his attorney kept delaying. So instead of having a conviction on his record like he would have if he followed his own advice, he beat the rap.
__________________
Dead Felon Brewing

highgravitybacon Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 01:35 AM   #8
hoppyhoppyhippo
 
hoppyhoppyhippo's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Dec 2012
New Brunswick, NJ
Posts: 2,708
Liked 409 Times on 334 Posts


Find a lawyer he can afford or at least get a public defender. Cannot represent yourself. He could be looking at severe fines, loss of license, jail time, etc.

I agree going to AA meetings is a good step in the right direction, the fact that there wasn't an accident is semi-mitigating, and I think he should offer to have an Interlock Ignition Device at his hearing but it may be required anyway so it wouldn't make a difference.

this site has some very basic information and potential lawyer contact

http://dui.drivinglaws.org/california.php

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 01:38 AM   #9
Beerrific
 
Beerrific's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Mar 2007
Georgia
Posts: 5,562
Liked 54 Times on 46 Posts


Every state is different in terms of what having lawyer can and can't do, but you really should convince your brother to at least sit down with a DUI lawyer and discuss his options. In the long run, begging for or borrowing the cash for lawyer may pay off.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2013, 01:44 AM   #10
SittingDuck
 
SittingDuck's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Dec 2011
Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 434
Liked 22 Times on 21 Posts


Attorney. Seriously. If he had limited funds, work out a loan or a payment plan. DUI attorneys do this all day, every day. They know the arguments to get you less punishment, they know the prosecutors and can work out better deals, they know how to cross examine police and exclude improper evidence.

Your brother is guilty and deserves punishment, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't get the best deal he can. Consider the attorney fees pay of hits penance.

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My experience with nottingham bry-97 "West Coast" ale yeast. cublue Fermentation & Yeast 7 09-30-2012 11:08 PM
Anyone have experience with these "True Brand Cooler" beer fridges? Need some help Hawaiianbrewer General Beer Discussion 4 02-22-2012 08:49 PM
My experience "fast carbonating" kegs guinsu Bottling/Kegging 8 03-07-2011 01:57 PM
Brother Jed: "Beer Lovers" Going to Hell Ouroboros Drunken Ramblings and Mindless Mumbling 66 09-29-2010 08:47 PM
"Little Brother" brau andre the giant General Beer Discussion 2 07-19-2005 02:47 AM


Forum Jump