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Old 02-23-2013, 05:18 AM   #121
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He wasn't trying to stick it to anybody just his way of doing things. He thought it was generous to leave $5.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:26 PM   #122
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It should be a requirement to work 1 service job & 1 manual labor job to be a citizen in the US. Then we'll see who bitches about tipping their fellow citizen.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:29 PM   #123
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It should be a requirement to work 1 service job & 1 manual labor job to be a citizen in the US. Then we'll see who bitches about tipping their fellow citizen.
We're not going to start this debate again, are we?

 
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:03 AM   #124
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We're not going to start this debate again, are we?
Not looking to debate it at all just making a statement
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:41 AM   #125
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BTW, while the US Flag Code is not enforceable by the government, the corporate headquarters of Applebee's agreed with me.
That's because if Monday's headine was "Applebee's tell's war vet to f-off, continues to hang flags upside-down", then they'd lose millions.

 
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:52 AM   #126
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Leaving a $5 tip is not "sticking it to the man". It's actually sticking it to someone who makes like $2 an hour (or whatever they make).
Who said anything about "sticking it to the man?"

And if a service/product is offered for $x, why is it unacceptable to pay $x +$y for it? Hell, it should be A-OK to pay $x alone for it. $x plus $z where z = anything above 0 should be above and beyond.

If I walk into a Lexus dealership that advertises an IS C for $35,000, and ask to buy one, and they expect me to tip $15,000 (it's actually a $50,000 car) and I don't, does that make me a jerk? Am I being mean to the salesman?

If a company advertises a product for $x, I expect to pay $x. Paying the tax is already a kick in the teeth. Throwing a mandatory tip on the pile is just adding insult to injury, especially when said tip is expected even for mediocre service. The only time paying strictly $x (i.e., tipping $0) is acceptable is in cases of grossly unsatisfactory service, and I think that's pretty manipulative.

That's why I avoid going out to sit-down restaurants as much as possible. Call me cheap, but if I see a billboard advertising a steak dinner for $19.99, I expect a 20-dollar bill to cover it. Anything less is false advertising.

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Old 02-24-2013, 06:09 AM   #127
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Who said anything about "sticking it to the man?"

And if a service/product is offered for $x, why is it unacceptable to pay $x +$y for it? Hell, it should be A-OK to pay $x alone for it. $x plus $z where z = anything above 0 should be above and beyond.

If I walk into a Lexus dealership that advertises an IS C for $35,000, and ask to buy one, and they expect me to tip $15,000 (it's actually a $50,000 car) and I don't, does that make me a jerk? Am I being mean to the salesman?

If a company advertises a product for $x, I expect to pay $x. Paying the tax is already a kick in the teeth. Throwing a mandatory tip on the pile is just adding insult to injury, especially when said tip is expected even for mediocre service. The only time paying strictly $x (i.e., tipping $0) is acceptable is in cases of grossly unsatisfactory service, and I think that's pretty manipulative.

That's why I avoid going out to sit-down restaurants as much as possible. Call me cheap, but if I see a billboard advertising a steak dinner for $19.99, I expect a 20-dollar bill to cover it. Anything less is false advertising.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:24 AM   #128
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I want "taxes-in" advertising! I want everyone to work like gas stations!

If gas is $3.50/gallon, then I know I can get a gallon of gas if I only have $3.50 on me.

Why can't everything else work the same way?

 
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:03 PM   #129
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I suspect many (if not all) of you have never worked as a waiter or waitress.
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:11 PM   #130
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It should be a requirement to work 1 service job & 1 manual labor job to be a citizen in the US. Then we'll see who bitches about tipping their fellow citizen.
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I suspect many (if not all) of you have never worked as a waiter or waitress.
I do not understand this argument. I will not ever understand it. We do not live in a socialist economy. I am not required to tip, and if I perceive you do be doing a crappy job, I will not do so. You are allowed to have hurt feelings because of my choice, and you are allowed to blame the cook if you think it's his fault that your tip suffered. In fact, if it was his fault, I expect you to go give him a piece of your mind. Maybe next time he'll do a better job, the food will show up on time, and you'll get a better tip. It's not my fault that your restaurant did not motivate me to spend extra cash, and I do not feel sorry for you. If you want more money, do something about it. Don't blame me.
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