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Old 02-10-2013, 03:24 PM   #11
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Yea, phases refers to the primary wires typically the wires at the top of the telephone poles


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Old 02-10-2013, 03:47 PM   #12
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Three-wire, 120/240 volt single phase power used in the United States and Canada is sometimes incorrectly called "two-phase". The proper term is split phase or 3-wire single-phase. The two live outputs of a 3-wire single phase transformer secondary winding are properly called "legs".
The point was that two phase power does or can exist, but that typical household power is not it.


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Yea, phases refers to the primary wires typically the wires at the top of the telephone poles
If you look at it in the same context as the panel board they're basically legs too, but have (typically) 120 deg offset in today's systems.

The power poles at the far end of our block carry all three legs of the three-phase distribution, but only one leg is tapped to the transformer providing 120/240V split phase service to the block.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:28 PM   #14
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Just an FYI there is no such thing as 2 phase power. It is either single phase 220 or 3 phase 220. There are other variation when you use more power lke 480 Delta but no 2 phase.
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I believe that you are mistaken. Please do a Google on "2 phase power".

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Three-wire, 120/240 volt single phase power used in the United States and Canada is sometimes incorrectly called "two-phase". The proper term is split phase or 3-wire single-phase. The two live outputs of a 3-wire single phase transformer secondary winding are properly called "legs".
Again... You stated in your first post "there is no such thing as 2 phase power".

That statment is patently incorrect. Also, your last reply does not relate in any way to 2 phase power either.

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Old 02-10-2013, 07:38 PM   #15
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Again... You stated in your first post "there is no such thing as 2 phase power".

That statment is patently incorrect. Also, your last reply does not relate in any way to 2 phase power either.

I'm done.!

There is NO 2 phase power in residential or commercial application. Anything that requires 2 phases (220 is NOT 2 phase) uses a 3 phase source and uses 2 LEGS of that 3 phase. Look it up it is in the NECA/NEIS code witch all electricians are to follow.
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There is NO 2 phase power in residential or commercial application. Anything that requires 2 phases (220 is NOT 2 phase) uses a 3 phase source and uses 2 LEGS of that 3 phase. Look it up it is in the NECA/NEIS code witch all electricians are to follow.
This is very different from your original statement, that "there is no such thing as 2 phase power," which is wrong. Check out the history of Niagara Falls, for example.
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This is very different from your original statement, that "there is no such thing as 2 phase power," which is wrong. Check out the history of Niagara Falls, for example.

You are correct I should have said in recent history it is not used.


And thanks for your polite way of pointing it out.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:56 PM   #18
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Phases, wattage, codes, jeez! Guess I'll stick to propane, thanks guys!!!
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:18 PM   #19
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If you guys want to fight about semantics of phases you should go to an electricians forum and not hijack someone else's thread.

To the OP, the most basic electric would be a water heater element controlled by a pwm in your BK to heat mash/spare water and to also boil your wort.
Search any of the terms: element, pwm, ekettle, etc, and you will find plenty of info. Or look at the threads referenced at the boy you of this very page.

You should be able to put it together
for less than $100.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:01 AM   #20
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Phases, wattage, codes, jeez! Guess I'll stick to propane, thanks guys!!!
+1 Well, these guys are passionate about their electricity!

Still say mine is the most basic, as the juice flow unimpeded to the element, no rheostat, PWM, PID, or any combination of letters. I'll try to get a pic up shortly for you to see.


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