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Old 02-10-2013, 02:41 PM   #11
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Short answer yes,always. Long answer,unless you're aging,oaking,or adding fruit there's no need for secondary these days. Many of us dry hop in primary,but only after FG & the beer has settled out clear or nearly so.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:42 PM   #12
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So should it be at my final gravity reading before I transfer to secondary?
Absolutely. And unless you're dry hopping, bulk aging, or racking onto fruit/oak/coco nibs etc I wouldn't bother with a secondary. Like mentioned above, the yeast will do their thing and they really clean up after themselves at 3 weeks. Racking too early can cause some off flavors since the yeast didn't have the proper time. Just because the fermentation has finished doesn't mean that the yeast are done working.

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Old 02-10-2013, 02:57 PM   #13
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As they said above no need for secondary. Let the yeast do their job. If I had found this site before I started brewing I would have bought more primary buckets instead of that glass carboy that has just sat in its box for 9 months now.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:26 PM   #14
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I will be dry hopping my IPA. Should I put a hydrometer to it in a week and see how its doing? I don't see any point in keeping it in the primary for 3 weeks if its done after.one.

 
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You'll want the beer settled out clear or nearly so before dry hopping. Otherwise,the hop oils coat the yeast cells & go to the bottom.
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I will be dry hopping my IPA. Should I put a hydrometer to it in a week and see how its doing? I don't see any point in keeping it in the primary for 3 weeks if its done after.one.
Think of it this way. Yeast has 4 basic phases as it ferments: pitch, lag, exponential, and stationary. Yeast produce acetolactate early in the fermentation. That is the precursor compound for diacetyl (buttery off flavors). The yeast need plenty of time to reabsorb those compounds AFTER the fermentation has finished. That can only happen with plenty of yeast and time. If you separate the beer from the yeast too early, there's no way to fix that. Like I said earlier, just because the main fermentation is finished, doesn't mean the yeast are done working.

With that being said, the shortest I'd leave a beer in the fermenter is two weeks. Three weeks is better IMO but to each his own.

 
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Think of it this way. Yeast has 4 basic phases as it ferments: pitch, lag, exponential, and stationary. Yeast produce acetolactate early in the fermentation. That is the precursor compound for diacetyl (buttery off flavors). The yeast need plenty of time to reabsorb those compounds AFTER the fermentation has finished. That can only happen with plenty of yeast and time. If you separate the beer from the yeast too early, there's no way to fix that. Like I said earlier, just because the main fermentation is finished, doesn't mean the yeast are done working.

With that being said, the shortest I'd leave a beer in the fermenter is two weeks. Three weeks is better IMO but to each his own.
So the suggestion is 3 weeks in the primary, another two? Dry hopping in the secondary, and then bottle?
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Let the beer hit FG,then give it another 3-7 days to settle out clear or slightly misty. Then dry hop. You'll get more flavor than if it's cloudy with yeast. You don't want the hop oils coating the yeast & sinking to the bottom.
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Let the beer hit FG,then give it another 3-7 days to settle out clear or slightly misty. Then dry hop. You'll get more flavor than if it's cloudy with yeast. You don't want the hop oils coating the yeast & sinking to the bottom.
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Yes, I normally do three weeks in primary then dry hop/carbonate in the keg with gelatin for a week. If bottling, I rack to secondary with hops for a week then bottle as usual. Will come out a lot better then just a week primary.

 
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