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Old 02-09-2013, 03:57 AM   #1
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I apologize if this has been covered somewhere else (mods, please move if I'm in the wrong place!)

My husband made a couple of beer kits a while back (9 months or so), and they took a very long time to carbonate, then the ones that did have a great, thick head - then they are flat within a minute.

What causes this? I'm going to do a GF Chocolate Vanilla Ale from scratch and I do not want this to happen during priming - I like LOTS of little bubbles and quite heavy carbonation.

What would I need in a 1 Gal recipe to attain a great amount of carbonation that stays around long enough to finish the drink?

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Old 02-09-2013, 04:16 AM   #2
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I apologize if this has been covered somewhere else (mods, please move if I'm in the wrong place!)

My husband made a couple of beer kits a while back (9 months or so), and they took a very long time to carbonate, then the ones that did have a great, thick head - then they are flat within a minute.

What causes this? I'm going to do a GF Chocolate Vanilla Ale from scratch and I do not want this to happen during priming - I like LOTS of little bubbles and quite heavy carbonation.

What would I need in a 1 Gal recipe to attain a great amount of carbonation that stays around long enough to finish the drink?

Ray
Here is a good website with a priming calculator.....http://tastybrew.mobify.me/calculators/
The average amount of co2 volume is 2.0-2.5 I believe. You can shoot higher if you like high carbonated beer.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:21 AM   #3
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In addition to carbonation, the quick loss of head could also be due to soap residue on your glassware. If you use a dishwasher make sure to rinse detergent residue off thoroughly.

 
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:46 AM   #4
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Jet Dry kills head faster than anything. You are kind of short on specifics that might help diagnose the problem though.
What was the ABV on these beers?
How long did you let them carbonate?
What temp did you carb at?
How long did you chill after carbonation?

 
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:39 AM   #5
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Don't know if this helps any but when I have overcarbed beers in the past (kegging and force carbing) I get lots of lingering foam, and by time it recedes the beer is nowhere near the carbonation level it should be. I have since fixed these issues.

 
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:53 AM   #6
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Initially the CO2 hangs out in the headspace and as pressure builds up, it begins to dissolve back into the beer. It sounds like you are opening your bottles before the CO2 has fully dissolved into the beer. So next time open a bottle and if the carbonation isn't what you like then give the rest another week or two. I would also use the link posted above to figure out the amount of priming sugar. But be careful of bottle bombs from over carbonation.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:07 AM   #7
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Are you chilling your beers for several days? Cold beer absorbs CO2 better than warm beer. To BobC's point it will take several days for the CO2 in the headspace to go back into solution in the beer.

 
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:28 AM   #8
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Are you chilling your beers for several days? Cold beer absorbs CO2 better than warm beer. To BobC's point it will take several days for the CO2 in the headspace to go back into solution in the beer.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:00 PM   #9
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The average ale takes 3-4 weeks at room temp to carb/condition in the bottles. Then at least a week in the fridge to get co2 in the head space into solution. Also needs 3-5 days for any chill haze to settle out clear. 2 weeks fridge time for thicker head & longer lasting carbonation.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:30 PM   #10
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I dont log in much any more...Am I gonna see you in Warren to quaf a pint or two from my pony for afterglow?
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