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Old 02-06-2013, 03:21 AM   #11
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Nothing too fancy...wheat DME, White Labs Yeast, 2 oz hops. I don't mean to sound like I'm knocking extract brewers. I buy extract for yeast starters but it's been a while since I bought enough for a whole batch, so just a little sticker shock. I can't lie though, I am looking forward to a short brew session this week.
i do some extract brews with dme. hefe is 1 of my normal extract beers. i use 2 bags wheat at $11 apiece, wb-06 at $3.50, and 1.5 oz hersbrucker ( $1.15 total since i buy in bulk ) . total 5g extract hefe is a little less than $27
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:24 AM   #12
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I have switched to AG but it isn't because of the high cost of extract...

Here are my real numbers...

My LHBS sells LME for $1.64/lb (33 lb carboy) and 2-row for $1.10 in 50 lb sacks. Figure 8 lbs LME provides same gravity as about 11 lbs malt, I pay about $13 for the extract vs $12 for the malt...

If I added in fuel cost for heating mash and sparge water probably just about even...

I like AG because I like the challenge of mashing to achieve a targeted fermentability of my wort. I also like to be able to play with things like domestic vs uk malt, or add in significant quantity of Munich/victory or some other specialty malt. I also like the Dave Miller quote "brewers make wort, yeast makes beer." Grinding the grain and mashing makes me feel more like I'm brewing and other than trolling here that's what I like doing...

Please don't bother pointing out you can get base malt at $0.70 / lb, I looked and I can't, at least until I hook up with a group buy. But frankly to save a couple bucks per 5 gal batch I'm just fine ordering through my LHBS. Way more convenient for me and I like shopping there.

 
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:28 AM   #13
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I wonder how much extract the OP bought. For $45 I can get 12 pounds of dry extract which is enough for a 1.100 beer.

Most of my extract batches only cost about $30 for 5.5 gallons (excepting HG and extremely hoppy beers).
That is still a high price to pay for extract.

 
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:40 AM   #14
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That is still a high price to pay for extract.
Yah, that's why if you extract brew full-time buying in bulk is your best option. Doing so brings the cost down to about $3 a pound. It's still cheaper for grain but it's not quite so stark a difference.

 
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:45 AM   #15
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$1.64/ lb is my cost for LME

 
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:52 AM   #16
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$1.64/ lb is my cost for LME

That works out pretty well for you and where you are. For me, though, it's $3/lb for DME and about 75 or 80 cents a pound for base grains.

 
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:01 AM   #17
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I know. My LHBS owner thinks I'm nuts brewing AG....

 
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:18 AM   #18
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. Since I cannot manage to afford a "true" all grain rig any time soon, I will be stuck with extract for the time being. As soon as I can afford an 8-gallon stockpot, I will probably switch to BIAB, but with the 4 gallon pot I have now, I cannot even do that yet. It seems that HOMEBREWING is expensive!
I just switched to all grain after alomst 20 years of extract brewing. My AG equipment is home built. $45 for a mash/lauter tun. $9 sparge arm/coil. $25 for a wort chiller. $35 7 gal pot. $12 grain mill.

So for roughly $130 my batches have gone from $25- $45 a batch for all extract to $10- $20 all grain.

I am on batch 10ish of AG so I am about to break even. Time wise is the other story. Brew times have gone from 1 hour extract to the fastest AG was 4 hours.

I made some awesome extract brews. I have made some awesome AG brews.

Time is money.
I now have more time than money.
To each thier own.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:31 PM   #19
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I noticed too that the Cooper's LME cans that were 16-18 dollars & change are now $22.95-$24.95. The Original Series are still abit cheaper till the can says "Lager" on it. Those batches with 1 Cooper's can,3lbs of plain Munton's DME & 2-6oz of hops were costing $35 or so. My partial mashes with 5lbs of grain & 3-3.3lbs of DME/LME are still $25 & change.
I got 1lb bags of Munton's plain DME for $4.99 at midwest. 3lb bags of same for $11.99. But my total be $63 & change got me free Fed-Ex delivery. Ordered last Friday,supposed to be deliverd today. They're swamped with orders & all this darn snow slowed it down a couple days.
3.3 pounds of Breisse gold plain LME for $9.99. Grains are def cheaper than I've heard from elsewhere.
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:37 PM   #20
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All my extract and kits come from Moorbeer. I make sure to buy enough clear the shipping. Shipping and tax free.

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