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Old 02-05-2013, 03:48 PM   #1
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been doing 5g batches for a couple years. it's time to move up to 10g. also i'm used to using my 10g orange mash tun cooler. now i'll be using a gravity fed brew sculpture. never used a pot with a false bottom like this to do a mash. any advice? any advice on recipe formulation?

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Old 02-05-2013, 03:53 PM   #2
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Subb'd. I'm considering the same thing for some batches and would like to see what some experienced 10 gal brewers have to say.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:05 PM   #3
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I do 10gallon batches but with a larger cooler than you, not a false-bottom kettle.

my only recommendation is that you have a SS valve on your brew kettle. do not try to lift 10 gallons of finished wort! accident waiting to happen

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Old 02-05-2013, 04:14 PM   #4
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Not sure what your looking for exactly, we use a 32g garbage can we made into a mash tun with a thermometer and 3pc ball valve and the blichman false bottom from their 20g pot fits the bottom nicely. We use gravity as much as possible using a 3 tier system we designed out of 4x4s and plywood. We can actually pull off 30g low abv batches using a keggle and the 20g blichman kettle for the boil, but its a pain in the ass. haha Most of the time we stick to 15g batches. Recipes are the same, just double everything!
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:29 PM   #5
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Yeast

If you don't have a stirplate, you'll probably be wanting to think about getting one. If you're fermenting in a single fermentor or splitting your batch between 2, you're effectively also doubling the quantity of yeast you need to be pitching and stirplate and large enough vessel (at least one gallon) are a large help.

One of the things I love about 10 gallon batches is pitching two different types of yeast into the same wort. So, if you're a liquid yeast user like me, you'll want two stirplates for your starters.


Buying in Bulk

Figure out a way and just start doing it. The cost savings is fantastic. With 10 gallon batches, I'm blowing through grain and hops. But by buying in bulk, my cost (non-equipment) is generally less than $0.50 per 12 oz beer.


PUMP and Valves on all kettles

These things in conjunction are the two upgrades that have made my brew days effortless. I know you mentioned a gravity fed system, so you may not have to worry about it as much or at all. I didn't have that luxury, so a pump was necessary to pump my strike/sparge water and the wort into the kettles at the end of the boil. Gravity or not, a pump is essential if you want to recirculate your wort during chilling. I recirculate through my plate chiller (and many use a recirculating whirlpool immersion chiller) that really helps me chill and (with the plate chiller) allows the bulk of the volume of wort to come down quickly (rather than have the mass volume of wort in the kettle sit hot while it does one pass through my chiller into the fermentors).

More fermentors

Get these too.

Kegs

Also extremely helpful, although I did bottle a couple 10 gallon batches before I finally upgraded.

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How about efficiencies? I've heard from friends who brew 10 gal that the efficiencies on their 10 gal setup is different from their 5 gals.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:37 PM   #7
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A 10 gal MLT is a little small for 10 gal batches. 15 gal would be ideal. I have a a 54 qt cooler for my 10 gal batches and it's just a tad too small.
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I'd be converting a 70qt cooler for this upgrade if I go for it. Though the way I'm thinking the false bottom, it will be more like a 66-68qt after the conversion. I figure that will be enough for all but the biggest of beers and those I don't think I'd need more than 5 gal of anyway.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:44 PM   #9
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i just started brewing last summer and only have 10 brews under my belt and i already want to go up to 10gal.
the only thing stopping me is the desire to scale up 15gal and just be done with it. be able to brew a 1/2 barrell at a time is so tempting.
5 gal cornies just go so quickly... ugh
decisions decisons

 
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this thread. if you read further into it, it does have some formulas on how big of a beer you can make in whatever size mash tun
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