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Old 02-03-2013, 09:26 PM   #21
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I thought advanced means to have won more forum arguments than your peers and thus winning all the internets.

LuLz, but no +1 to "advanced" being a relative term and not something that you can apply to yourself.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:07 PM   #22
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Advanced is when:
Your best friend who would not BS you tells you that this was the best beer he has ever tasted
SWMBO stops drinking BMC light and starts draining your stash
When you stop buying bling for your car and you start saving for that conical
When you turn the front closet into a fermentation chamber
When you start building recipes that don't have 12 different grains
When you look forward to getting up early on Saturday
When you don't feel like a noob anymore.

Advanced is a state of mind. You'll know it. But you will always keep getting better and gaining knowledge.

I'm almost 250 batches in and I am still learning about advanced techniques.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:16 PM   #23
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Advanced is when:
Your best friend who would not BS you tells you that this was the best beer he has ever tasted
SWMBO stops drinking BMC light and starts draining your stash
When you stop buying bling for your car and you start saving for that conical
When you turn the front closet into a fermentation chamber
When you start building recipes that don't have 12 different grains
When you look forward to getting up early on Saturday
When you don't feel like a noob anymore.

Advanced is a state of mind. You'll know it. But you will always keep getting better and gaining knowledge.

I'm almost 250 batches in and I am still learning about advanced techniques.
Damn, I'm just an over equipped newb. I knew it.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:02 PM   #24
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It doesn't matter to me. I've brewed 431 batches, given seminars, written magazine articles.....many would consider me advanced. I consider myself a homebrewer just like everyone else.
Well put, Denny.

 
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:43 PM   #25
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I'll stick my $0.02 in, I think "advanced" is where you know what you are doings as well as why you are doing it adn what effect it will have prior to tasting the result.
As someone said most can follow a recipe to do a tripple deco brew or produce an amazing IIPA, and they can go on to produce 200+ batches/15 years worth of fantastic beer. But it takes an advanced brewer to know that by using this combination of malts, hops, minerals, temperature, etc. I would expect to have a beer that taste...
It is the knowledge that makes you advanced/expert not the time (although generally time -> experience -> knowledge)
Wait thinking about that I would correct that to:
An advance brewer knows why to do certian things,
An expert brewer can predict the results of certain things

 
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:55 AM   #26
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It doesn't matter to me. I've brewed 431 batches, given seminars, written magazine articles.....many would consider me advanced. I consider myself a homebrewer just like everyone else.
What he said... minus 300 batches, seminars and magazine articles...

The more I think I have become "advanced"... the more I realize how much I don't know....
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:53 AM   #27
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The more I think I have become "advanced"... the more I realize how much I don't know....
Nice one.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:08 AM   #28
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I am think its pretty easy. If you consider yourself advanced, you're probably not. If everyone except you think your advanced, you're getting close.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:09 AM   #29
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I am think? How the hell did I manage that?
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:10 AM   #30
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I am think its pretty easy. If you consider yourself advanced, you're probably not. If everyone except you think your advanced, you're getting close.
Very Zen, but I agree.
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