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Old 02-02-2013, 04:28 AM   #11
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Tablespoon to a gallon. Procedure: Fill the five gallon bucket with water, place all to be bombed in the bucket,Add five tablespoons of bleach, place lid on the bucket and see bleach water come from the hole for the bung on top (and cover the top), Let sit 1 week.
That will clear your bucket and anything soaked in it.

Siphon tubing?

If it doesn't affect the beers, don't worry too much. Just try your best to sanitize everything between brews and hopefully it will eventually disappear.


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Old 02-02-2013, 07:00 AM   #12
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Are those images from under a microscope, could you see that just by looking in the fermenter


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Old 02-02-2013, 01:41 PM   #13
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I have a mead that's turning to vinegar and there is no pellicle, film, or skin of any kind on the surface of the mead. To look at it, you would not think that it was infected.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:55 AM   #14
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I have a mead that's turning to vinegar and there is no pellicle, film, or skin of any kind on the surface of the mead. To look at it, you would not think that it was infected.
That would be the point, acetobacter doesnt form a pellicle. Since his infection clearly has a pellicle it cannot be acetobacter.
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*An update for the sake of anyone looking at this thread in the future*

Bottled and conditioned the beer tastes fine. It is a little cloudy. Bleach Bombing all plastic now. Will update again after my next batch in the bucket.
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*update for anyone reading this thread in the future. *

Have made two ore batches with bleach bombed equipment with no problems. Bleach bomb for the win!!!!
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After the second time I saw it I threw the bucket out. This is a different bucket.
so much for the "throw out your plastic bucket" advice so often repeated. an infection can come from anywhere and focusing only on the bucket can often lead to another infection. thoroughly cleaning and sanitizing all of your gear is the answer to an infection.
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That would be the point, acetobacter doesnt form a pellicle. Since his infection clearly has a pellicle it cannot be acetobacter.
Acetobacter most certainly forms a pellicle. It is an obligate aerobe, so it prefers to grow at the air-liquid interface.

Although with out any vinegar taste or smell, I would agree it is not Acetobacter.

OP, glad you got your contamination figured out, silly bacteria are just everywhere!
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so much for the "throw out your plastic bucket" advice so often repeated. an infection can come from anywhere and focusing only on the bucket can often lead to another infection. thoroughly cleaning and sanitizing all of your gear is the answer to an infection.
That's if any of these were actually infections and if they were the same... I threw out the bucket as a precaution because I get them for free. Do a lot of Belgians at higher than average temperatures. Starting to think weird stuff on top is standard.
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That's if any of these were actually infections and if they were the same... I threw out the bucket as a precaution because I get them for free. Do a lot of Belgians at higher than average temperatures. Starting to think weird stuff on top is standard.
uh, yes.

throwing the bucket out is not really a precaution if the source of infection is somewhere else. how does anyone know where the beer picked up and infection? they don't unless they have tested all of the gear that the beer came in contact with. it would make more sense to throw out all of your gear and start over with new gear if there are organisms out there immune to soap and water or star san. i'm not arguing that people shouldn't throw out their buckets if they want to, i'm arguing that an infection can be cleaned off. the OP had an infected beer, eventually threw away the bucket, then got another infection, to me that says something other than "throw the new bucket away too".


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