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Old 01-30-2013, 10:17 PM   #1
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Austin HB is selling a 'Brew Cube', for less than $50. Anyone used one? Would be nice to ferment 10g all at one go. I don't think I'm too worried about scratches b/c I can simply be super careful with the interiors.

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Old 01-30-2013, 10:51 PM   #2
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you don't need to worry about scratches if you practice proper sanitation.



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Old 01-30-2013, 10:59 PM   #3
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I've seen people use it for grain storage. I'm sure you could ferment in it. It's the standard vittles vault, which is less with free shipping off amazon.

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Old 01-30-2013, 11:15 PM   #4
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you don't need to worry about scratches if you practice proper sanitation.
The dominant theory is that scratches make proper sanitation nearly impossible to guarantee. Obviously a light scuff is less likely to hide an infection than a deep gouge. The thinking goes that the scratches prevent the sanitizer from reaching all of the bacteria and over a 3 week fermentation you get enough beasties to ruin the flavor of the beer.
If you're practicing the no-chill method often associated with 'cubes it might not be as much of an issue, but still something to be aware of. I also have no experience with no-chill so don't blame me if your brew gets infected.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:40 PM   #5
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Pelipen - Vittle Vault? No ****? Sweet, should be cheaper and easier to source that way.

Eastoak - The scratches would/might come from aggressive cleaning.

Leithoa - Looking at this b/c they look like they would be a better use of space in a fermentation fridge. So no chill is a no-no in my book.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:48 PM   #6
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I find that the 15 gallon food grade blue plastic barrels do a fine job if you want to ferment 10-12 gallons at a time. Easier to move around than a vittles vault, too.


EDIT: I suppose you don't have to get the blue ones, but I got mine for free which are blue...there are also white ones around.

EDIT 2: Here is what I'm talking about:

Delex 15 Gallon Closed Top Container

 
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:25 AM   #7
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The dominant theory is that scratches make proper sanitation nearly impossible to guarantee. Obviously a light scuff is less likely to hide an infection than a deep gouge. The thinking goes that the scratches prevent the sanitizer from reaching all of the bacteria and over a 3 week fermentation you get enough beasties to ruin the flavor of the beer.
If you're practicing the no-chill method often associated with 'cubes it might not be as much of an issue, but still something to be aware of. I also have no experience with no-chill so don't blame me if your brew gets infected.
i hear you and i agree that it's really only a gouge that might be a problem. all of my plastic fermentors are scratched, i ferment both sour beer and sacc yeast beer in all of my fermentors without ever having a cross contamination. the reason i started doing this was to see if there are bugs that can hide from proper sanitation, so far i have not found them. i'm not disputing that cross contamination or infections in general can happen, what i'm arguing against is the idea that a scratch is a death sentence for a plastic fermentor. many times people have posted an infected beer on these boards and the prevailing advice has been "throw out the bucket and all other plastics"

anyway, this is the wrong thread for my rant

 
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:13 AM   #8
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I find that the 15 gallon food grade blue plastic barrels do a fine job if you want to ferment 10-12 gallons at a time. Easier to move around than a vittles vault, too.


EDIT: I suppose you don't have to get the blue ones, but I got mine for free which are blue...there are also white ones around.

EDIT 2: Here is what I'm talking about:

Delex 15 Gallon Closed Top Container
What do you use to siphon the beer out? Seems taller than an auto siphon.

 
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:24 AM   #9
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I haven't used an autosiphon in probably two or three years. I still have one someplace. A regular racking cane works, although you have to tilt the fermenter as you drain it...but I do that anyway even when I'm using a bucket.

 
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:13 PM   #10
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I have one I use for ten gallon batches. Works fine.



 
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