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Old 02-01-2013, 09:43 PM   #101
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whats funny is if they were died white, like a brew bucket, than nobody would have a problem with it. Am I wrong in thinking that for the regular fermenters they put something in the plastic to make them white?
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:58 PM   #102
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HDPE is naturally somewhat translucent. They 'could' add any color they want, but it comes raw as whiteish color. Molded some gasoline funnels today with 'natural' HDPE. It's the same material used in milk jugs and other things.

Also it might be worth it to know that any product not approved as food safe or better may have other things in it such as mold release, oil, contamination from other materials, etc. as a consequence of a production facility. Food grade products have a more stringent cleanliness and contamination standard to follow.
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For the record I think that the mold releasing agent argument that was brought up is totally valid. I have worked on injection mold machines before and watched the operators. They spray the mold with some nasty stuff called "stoner" and shoot the molten polymer/rubber/plastic/HPDE/whatever pellets in there. The pellets melt against and conform to the shape of the surface of the freshly "stoner" coated mold, so I assume that some of that crap HAS to become impregnated into the plastic. I had not thought of this (did not realize that buckets were injection molded) before asking about the homer buckets. In light of this, I would recommend using only food grade containers for storing grains or fermenting.

And that is my final word. I am officially withdrawing from this discussion. thanks again everybody.

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Old 02-02-2013, 02:20 AM   #104
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10 pages on Homer buckets might be completely ridiculous, but when I read posts like this ^^^^^, I think it's worth educating myself.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:30 AM   #105
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If you're looking to go on the cheap for fermenters go to Menards and purchase 4 gal spring water bottles...I think I paid $5/ea. I use three of them for a 10 gal batch. I get my knife steel nice and hot, melt a hole through the nipple and stick the air gap in. It's nice and tight. I've thought about flipping them and poking two holes and shoving a tube to the airspace and venting through the bottom and installing a drain situation to capture the yeast.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:24 AM   #106
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For the record I think that the mold releasing agent argument that was brought up is totally valid. I have worked on injection mold machines before and watched the operators. They spray the mold with some nasty stuff called "stoner" and shoot the molten polymer/rubber/plastic/HPDE/whatever pellets in there. The pellets melt against and conform to the shape of the surface of the freshly "stoner" coated mold, so I assume that some of that crap HAS to become impregnated into the plastic. I had not thought of this (did not realize that buckets were injection molded) before asking about the homer buckets. In light of this, I would recommend using only food grade containers for storing grains or fermenting.

And that is my final word. I am officially withdrawing from this discussion. thanks again everybody.
Thanks for the follow-up, OP. I'm out too guys.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:42 PM   #108
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I seen some at Lowes. They have a food grade bucket
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I am brewing a 3.5 gallon batch right now...that will be going into the Lowes Food grade 5 gallon bucket for fermentation...using a gasketed ale pail lid which fits perfectly.
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Dang, I have about 12 homer buckets. I don't use them for fermentation but I have been storing grains in them. I'm not dead yet or anything but had I read this first I would have bought something else to use to keep grain in.
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