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Old 03-28-2013, 12:40 AM   #51
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The mash lowers the pH; you need to measure the mash/sparge pH levels.



 
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:03 PM   #52
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Let me ask you guys this. What are the chances of a beer being to young and cloudy causing this? I just tried my cream ale that I kegged in December after only two weeks in the fermenter. Tasted grainy and was cloudy. Now 3 months later it cleared and doesn't taste grainy at all. Any thoughts?

Perhaps I should secondary my beers and cold condition before bottling or cold condition in my kegs? Or maybe im drinking my beer way to young?


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Old 04-01-2013, 10:47 PM   #53
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All I can say is that in my experience, a couple weeks of cold conditioning can do a lot for a beer.

 
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:58 PM   #54
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Good deal. I really appreciate all the help guys.
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:54 PM   #55
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Let me ask you guys this. What are the chances of a beer being to young and cloudy causing this? I just tried my cream ale that I kegged in December after only two weeks in the fermenter. Tasted grainy and was cloudy. Now 3 months later it cleared and doesn't taste grainy at all. Any thoughts?

Perhaps I should secondary my beers and cold condition before bottling or cold condition in my kegs? Or maybe im drinking my beer way to young?
I suspect it is the yeast. I use about 6 different yeast on my various brews and they all have a different taste - the yeast themselves that is, not just the beer. I also keg and of course the first couple of pints when I tap a new keg are a little cloudy with yeast. This has a big impact on the flavor. I never judge a beer until it is pouring clear. Try a different yeast and see if the flavor changes (while still cloudy). If it does, then you know it is the yeast

Also sitting on the lees (a wine making term) can definitely result in some bready notes in a beer, particularly if the temperature is a bit on the warmer side. This will persist longer than after the beer clears
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For those of you wondering this was the original grainy culprit. I kegged it after a week and a half since it was a low OG beer. Started drinking at two weeks and it was cloudy and grainy tasting. Sampled it probably every two weeks. After two and a half months at 40 degrees the graininess is gone. I am now thinking if I conditioned in keg at room temp and cold crashes for a week or two then carbed the grainy flavors would have never been there. I am starting too think I'm drinking my beer way too young.

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Old 04-03-2013, 04:11 AM   #57
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I think that grainy taste probably shows up in lighter beers with low hop profiles, which you seem to be brewing. You wouldn't taste in much in a young ipa. But I know exactly what you're talking about. It's not the yeast/bready taste you get in some beers-it tastes more like grain husks. A brewery opened up in my hometown last year, and their first beer was a wit. They clearly rushed it, and I swear it had this grainy taste to it that I can only compare to the taste of an old straw broom. Maybe it's something that the yeast carries, or I guess it could be tannins from the grain, but it does go away.

 
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:03 PM   #58
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Yes, this is not a bitter tannic taste. I can pick the tannins out in a nice big Cabernet and the taste I am talking about doesn't fit that profile. Imagine a slight cheerio'ish flavor at the end of your beer. This beer finished out nicely now though. From now on its at least month conditions before I do anything with a beer. Then another 3 weeks carbonating. I drank half of a keg of my cream ale, thinking it was bad.


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