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Old 01-26-2013, 02:15 PM   #1
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I've got a wedding to brew for in May, and a nice lager- temp basement at the moment, so would like to try a nice hoppy lager recipe. Jack's Abbey (Framingham, MA) brews a nice IPL (their designation) - very clean and hoppy. I'll probably try to contact them too. But does anyone have any suggestions or recipes they've tried & liked?



 
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:21 PM   #2
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I've drank a couple and liked them quite a bit, but sadly haven't spent enough time in the "lager" department to give much advice. I imagine you've checked out the 'Recipes' link above?



 
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:31 PM   #3
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Are you kegging or bottling?

Dry hopping in the keg will be key to maintaining a good hoppy punch

 
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:57 AM   #4
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I have made a few, and they are great. Simply find a great IPA recipe and use a lager yeast that attenuates well. I have used Wyeast 2035 (American lager) and 2124 (Bavarian lager) with good results. Pitch a lot of active yeast.

I have used Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA recipe as a lager.

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Old 01-27-2013, 05:18 AM   #5
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I have made a few, and they are great. Simply find a great IPA recipe and use a lager yeast that attenuates well. I have used Wyeast 2035 (American lager) and 2124 (Bavarian lager) with good results. Pitch a lot of active yeast.

I have used Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA recipe as a lager.

Good Luck
Great advice! And, since I definitely like FSWUJIPA I might have to put this on my brews for this coming year. I'm planning a lagering fermentation chamber so this could be a great experiment. Thanks for the post!

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Old 01-27-2013, 03:50 PM   #6
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Southern Tier makes a great hoppy lager called Krampus. There might be a clone out there...

http://www.stbcbeer.com/seasonals/se...pus-beer-page/

 
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:25 AM   #7
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Thanks everyone, good ideas!
Hey, I contacted Jacks Abbey and they sent me this: Not sure what yeast to use yet though...

Hoponius Union

80% 2 Row
4% Spelt
12% Munich
4% Cara Belge

Hops
60 Mins Magnum 12 IBU's
30 Mins Magnum 5 IBU's
5 Mins Centennial 20 IBUs
Whirl 2 oz of Centennial and Citra per Gallon
Dry 1.5 oz of Centennial, Citra per gallon

Let the beer warm up to 55-60 degrees at the end of fermentation to dry hop. Split the dry hop into two additions and add second dry hop 5 days later.

 
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:44 PM   #8
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mclynch, did you brew the recipe you posted for Hoponius Union?

I like the idea of trying the Hoponius clone but I see some curiosities in the provided recipe:
-Their website says this beer is 65 IBU and the recipe you posted only accounts for half of that.
-Magnum is usally just used as a bittering hop and isn't really regarded for it's flavor. That is, I don't see the point in splitting the additions between 60 and 30 mins. If that 30 minute addition was Citra or Centennial it would make more sense.
-Getting 20 IBUs with a 5 minute addition is going to be like 3 oz per 5 gals in a final addition. That's a ton.
-2oz of Centennial and 2 oz of Citra per gallon is a crap ton of hops at whirlppol.
-That said 1.5 oz of centennial and 1.5 oz of citra / gallon is obviously 3 oz of hops per gallon or 15 oz of dry hops in a 5 gallon batch. Dare I say absurd?

I'm not hating on you: if that's the recipe they gave you then so be it. I'm just saying that this really breaks all the rules. You're talking about 23 or 24 oz of hops (1.5 lbs!) in a 5 gallon batch just between the 5 min and whirlpool additions. But maybe it's just crazy enough that it will work.

 
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:52 PM   #9
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Here's the recipe I finally brewed:

38 IBUs
6.1%Abv


9.48 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 80.0 %
1.42 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 3 12.0 %
0.47 lb Carabelge Malt (13.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.0 %
0.47 lb Spelt (1) (3.0 SRM) Grain 5 4.0 %

Mash In at 156.0 F 45 min
Mash Out 168.0 F 10 min
Fly sparge at 168.0 F

0.28 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 12.4 IBUs
0.20 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 6.8 IBUs
3.16 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8 18.4 IBUs
Steeped Hops
5.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Aroma Steep 10.0 min Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
5.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Aroma Steep 10.0 min Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Yes, that is a crazy amount of hops... but the results were equally as amazing.
We did a side by side with a 4 month old bottle of Hoponius Union just last week... the aroma of mine is much better - fruity, citrus.
The taste of the two was almost indistinguishable... I mean this was spot on... several even liked my clone better.

Now this was an expensive beer to brew with that amount of hops, but it was for a wedding, so who cares. The 50 bottles were gone that evening! Possibly the best beer I have ever brewed.

Props to Jack's Abby for sending me the recipe. I actually talked to Jack at the ACBF and thanked him personally. Nice people.

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:06 AM   #10
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Damn, that's a lot of citra, and if I'm reading it right, you cut the citra in half (2 oz per gallon???).



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