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Old 01-26-2013, 09:51 PM   #141
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OK, I brewed a Porter this morning, and after I batch sparged, I ran another 2 quarts through the grain bed. The gravity of the resulting wort was only 1.008 - too low to be useful as yeast starter wort, in my opinion. It was a nice idea, though.
Why not adjust so you end up with a little extra like a 1/4 gallon? Add that extra quarter gallon to your recipe. So make 5.25 g batch and use that for a starter. It helps if you get good efficiency and don't have to add any extra grain.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:31 PM   #142
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yeah even if you spend $20-$25 per batch your still only spending 50 cents or so per beer (depending on your efficiency). It really cant be done without large initial startup costs. i.e. yeast harvesting growing hops, grain bulk buys. good luck though.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:06 AM   #143
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yeah even if you spend $20-$25 per batch your still only spending 50 cents or so per beer (depending on your efficiency). It really cant be done without large initial startup costs. i.e. yeast harvesting growing hops, grain bulk buys. good luck though.
I don't see how any of the three things you posted can be considered large start up costs....

 
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:19 PM   #144
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my 2 cents... when i plan cheap beers, i go for mega AA hops for aroma and flavour timings so that they end up bittering as well, or perhaps someone said, but why not do a 3 gallon batch for the price you'd be willing to pay for a 5 gallon. its logical to end up with some real bottom shelf tasting beer you made if its like 25 cents a bottle, but damn thats pretty hard up.

 
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:33 PM   #145
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Simple pale ale

9lb 2 row and 1/2lb specialty grain -$8 if bought in bulk
1 oz each columbus and cascade- $2 at a buck an ounce

Just harvest us05 in a mason jar from one batch to the next. Unless you cut down on the grains, you wont get much cheaper than that. Water, propane, caps, priming sugar or co2, sanitizer, fresh yeast every now and then will cost you money but you wont see that every batch...

 
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:07 PM   #146
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Oh...I see. In that case the exchange price at my local OSH is INSANE! LOL.
Yes it is.

I ran out of propane bringing my second batch to 170 last weekend. Quickly grabbed the tank out of my BBQ. Also empty. Arrrgh.

Ran down to the podunk corner gas station. The one that charges $0.20 above every other gas station if you drive into town.

Walked away with 8.1 gallons for $32 after taxes. Works out to $3.95/gal, or $0.96/lb. I'm sure cheaper could be had elsewhere.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:46 PM   #147
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This whole post is so much more than just making "Cheap Beer". Cheap is probably the wrong word to use. These beer we are making are not really cheap, they are quality beers and we have giving ways to make every beer we make at great savings. The methods discussed allow everyone to nearly knock the cost in half using the same ingredients we were already using. The methods I use work across all my recipes not just the ones I can do for under $10.00.

What's also cool about doing group buys is meeting the others in your area who brew. Here is SJ we get together nearly monthly as 35 group buys have occurred since 2010 and the pickups become sharing of information as well.

Home Brew Talk is a such a cool site, we get to learn of so many aspects in brewing and see the ingenuity of members around the world and their DIY designs. We have great vendors who post awesome sales for all our needs in the brewing process.



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my 2 cents... when i plan cheap beers, i go for mega AA hops for aroma and flavour timings so that they end up bittering as well, or perhaps someone said, but why not do a 3 gallon batch for the price you'd be willing to pay for a 5 gallon. its logical to end up with some real bottom shelf tasting beer you made if its like 25 cents a bottle, but damn thats pretty hard up.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:30 PM   #148
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Problem solved. Malt your own grain. Costs me 20 cents a pound unmalted and it costs me nearly nothing to malt and dry during the summer. You could make almost any beer besides IPAs and barleywines using washed yeast. Really not that difficult, you just need to do a protien rest

I can literally make five gallons of pale ale 10 lbs of grain, 3 oz of hops, and washed yeast for under 5 bucks.
10*.3= $3 grain.. Can make my own biscuit, C40, etc etc.. Toasting cost included
3*.50= $1.5 hops.. CTZ, Summit, Cascade, all CHEAP

I get 5-6 generations out of US05.. Not recommended but in my lab I can

I make tons of lagers so liquid yeast costs more even if I get tons of generations. Still costs under 8 bucks for a batch of Bohemian pilsner
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Problem solved. Malt your own grain. Costs me 20 cents a pound unmalted and it costs me nearly nothing to malt and dry during the summer. You could make almost any beer besides IPAs and barleywines using washed yeast. Really not that difficult, you just need to do a protien rest
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:54 PM   #150
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+1 on this post being about more than just making "Cheap Beer".

Also, what process do you use to malt your grain? Is there a guide or detailed instructions available somewhere for malting grain at home?

 
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