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Old 09-10-2007, 05:50 AM   #1
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I know Saison is a summer ale, but I really want to make one, I had one that was delicious in Kaiserslaughtern at a little brewpub and I just thought about it today. Here is my feeble attempt at a recipe. Whether this is right or not, I'm not sure, but it sure sounds good to me:

Style: Saison
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.41 gal
Estimated OG: 1.072 SG
Estimated Color: 11.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 26.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 54.90 %
2.00 lb Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 15.69 %
1.25 lb Caramunich Malt (56.0 SRM) Grain 9.80 %
1.00 lb Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM) Grain 7.84 %
0.50 lb Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 3.92 %
1.00 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] (60 min) Hops 14.9 IBU
0.50 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (30 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
0.25 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (30 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
0.25 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] (15 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
0.75 oz Orange Peel, Bitter (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
2.00 gm Seeds of Paradise (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
1.00 lb Candi Sugar, Clear (0.5 SRM) Sugar 7.84 %
1 Pkgs Belgian Saison II Ale (White Labs #WLP566) Yeast-Ale



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Old 09-10-2007, 05:02 PM   #2
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Some advice that was given to me when I did mine this summer was to mash low (146ish) for a longer time. And ferment hot(85-95) I think I got mine up to about 100 on a day or two, and it is great. I really stepped up the spices in mine though, i like a spicy saison though. let us know how it comes out.

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BTW i am workin gon my red recipe and will post it tonite
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:15 PM   #3
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I'm thinking black peppercorns as well, but aren't they similar to seeds of paradise? I'll let this one ferment on my porch, gets up to 88 around here and 75 or so at night. Perfect time of the year.

Also, I'm using the WLP566 not the 565, know anything about this one?


Side Note: Wop, my red smell so flipping good, I can't stop sniffing the airlock. Fermentation has slowed down immensly, I'm gonna measure the gravity tonight and post up on that other thread.


 
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:01 PM   #4
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I dig it. The use of English hops is strange, but for only 0.25 oz, I guess it won't be bad at all.

I've only made mine with Coriander, so I'd love to see how the seeds of paradise work.

I'm thinking of brewing my saison again real soon. Maybe we should beerswap. You can see my recipe in the recipe database.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:12 PM   #5
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I'd love to do a beer swap. When doing a search on Saison recipes I found a few that used kent goldings, since I have a ton on hand, figured I'd use some as well. I guess, kind of subconciously, since Kent Goldings and Styrian Goldings have similar names, I figured they might work together as well.

 
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:24 PM   #6
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That's one way of doing it!

As you can see by mine, I experimented a little using the Sorachi Ace in my Sorachi Saison. It's got a bigger hop kick than a typical saison, but it still tastes pretty good and has been a HUGE hit with everyone I know.

As for the swap, I wonder how many people would want to get in on a Saison only swap?
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:42 PM   #7
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I made jezter6's Sorachi, but I added more candi sugar. I'm going to be gone for about a week next week so I'll see how it goes.

I should have enough to bottle a few off the top when it fininshes, but I'm going to play iot by ear.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:47 PM   #8
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I'm planning to do another batch of mine possibly next weekend, so I should be ready to send some bottles around mid-late October. I think this would be a great beer for those "indian summer" nights. A nice spicy brew around Halloween.

I may make some changes, although it's well liked so I may just do it to get rid of the last of my sorachi ace hops. They've been in the freezer since like February, so I dunno if they are still at the 13% alpha.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:02 PM   #9
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I have a Saison IPA i'd be willing to do some swapping of, it is very hoppy but I like it with the spiciness and fruitiness.

 
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:07 PM   #10
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Sweet, I'll make sure to bottle about 6 or so of them for sending out. Will be 4 or 5 weeks from now though.

 
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