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Old 01-18-2013, 02:46 PM   #1
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Default Tripel IPA Partial Mash

I'd still consider myself a beginner and I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm looking for anyone's thoughts or seal of approval on a Tripel IPA recipe I put together myself. I had Piraat a few times and loved it, so that's what inspired me to brew a Tripel IPA. This beer isn't a clone though.

Ideally, I would've went with WLP550, but I figured it would be easier to dump 2 packets of T-58 in there rather than use WLP550 and make a starter. One side effect though is that the estimated ABV dropped 1% when I switched to T-58 because it doesn't attenuate as well. So I added another pound of DME.

HOME BREW RECIPE:
Title: Tripel IPA

Brew Method: Partial Mash
Style Name: Belgian Tripel
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Est. Efficiency: 65% (brew house)

ESTIMATED STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.084
Final Gravity: 1.024
ABV (standard): 7.97%
IBU (rager): 65.84
SRM (morey): 6.45

FERMENTABLES:
6 lb - Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light - (late addition) @ 15
1.25 lb - Corn Sugar - Dextrose - (late addition) @ 2

MASH:
3 lb - Belgian - Pilsner
8 oz - American - Carapils (Dextrine Malt)
8 oz - Belgian - CaraVienne
8 oz - American - White Wheat
4 oz - Belgian - Aromatic

HOPS:
0.5 oz - Magnum (pellet) for 60 min
0.5 oz - Magnum (pellet) for 40 min
0.5 oz - Chinook (pellet) for 15 min
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings (pellet) for 15 min
0.5 oz - Chinook (pellet) for 5 min
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings (pellet) for 5 min
1 oz - Chinook (leaf) for last 5 days of secondary

MASH STEPS:
1) Temperature, Temp: 153 F, Time: 60 min, Amount: 6 qt
2) Sparge, Temp: 170 F, Amount: 6 qt

YEAST:
2 packets of Fermentis / Safale - Safbrew - Specialty Ale Yeast T-58

OTHER:
1 - Whirlfloc Tablet @ 10


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Old 02-03-2013, 05:46 AM   #2
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Here is the updated recipe. I'm thinking about bringing down the IBUs from what I put in the original recipe. Also, from what I'm reading online, it seems like a lot of people have either a love or hate relationship with Chinook hops. This made me a little nervous about using so much of them in something like a tripel. Should I swap out the Chinook for Mosaic hops? I already have the chinook hops though so should I go through the trouble of placing another order? Or should I just leave it as is but drop the chinook late additions? Help please, I'm in a dilemma.

Brew Method: Partial Mash
Style Name: Belgian Tripel
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Est. Efficiency: 65%

ESTIMATED STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.084
Final Gravity: 1.024
ABV (standard): 7.95%
IBU (rager): 47.52
SRM (morey): 6.3

FERMENTABLES:
5 lb - Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light - (late addition)
3 lb - Belgian - Pilsner
2 lb - Corn Sugar - Dextrose - (late addition)
12 oz - American - White Wheat
8 oz - American - Carapils (Dextrine Malt)
8 oz - Belgian - CaraVienne
4 oz - Belgian - Aromatic

HOPS:
0.5 oz - Magnum for 60 min
0.5 oz - Mosaic for 20 min
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings for 20 min
0.5 oz - Mosaic for 5 min
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings for 5 min
1 oz - Mosaic Dry Hop for last 5 days in secondary

MASH STEPS:
1) Temperature, Temp: 152 F, Time: 90 min, Amount: 7 qt
2) Sparge, Temp: 152 F, Amount: 7 qt

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
1 tablet - Whirlfloc Tablet, Time: 15 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil

YEAST:
2 Packets of Fermentis / Safale - Safbrew - Specialty Ale Yeast T-58


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Old 02-04-2013, 04:45 AM   #3
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I recently created my own recipe for a Belgian ipa and brewed it a little over 2 weeks ago. It has a slightly different hop schedule than yours, but a very similar grain bill. Plus i added some candi sugar to increase ABV and dry it out a little. I can't comment on a final product, as mine is still dry hopping for another 4-5 days. However I did taste mine during a gravity reading and it was quite delicious. I was surprised how much the Belgian yeast flavor covered up the bitterness. So I wouldn't really worry much about reducing your IBUs. Anyway, here is my recipe for reference.

OG: 1.070
FG: 1.018
IBU: 75

Grain Bill:
6.6 lbs Light LME
1 lb CaraVienne 20L
1 lb Pilsen (2 Row)
8 oz Aromatic malt
6 oz White Wheat Malt

Hops:
1 oz Chinook @ 60 min
.5 oz Centennial @ 30 min
.5 oz Chinook @ 30 min
.5 oz Centennial @ 10 min
.5 oz Chinook @ 10 min
2 oz Amarillo @ 5 min
1 oz Centennial - Dryhop
2 oz Amarillo - Dryhop

Yeast:
Wyeast 3522 (Belgian Ardennes)

Other Additions:
1 lb Candi sugar (clear)
1 whirlfloc tablet (10 min)
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Thanks for the feedback. I think I am going to swap out the late addittion chinook hops, replace them with mosaic, and then do a dry hop with an ounce of each pellet chinook and mosaic. I'll save the chinook leaf hops for a pale ale dry hop this spring.

One other concern of mine was the yeast that I'm using. I wasn't sure if I should use liquid or dry yeast because I don't make starters and it's easier to use 2 packets of dry yeast rather than making a starter. Also, with it being so cold outside, I think I will only be able to maintain temps of about 65 - 68 degrees. Safale seemed to have a wider temperature range, but with the calculator I used, when I put in the safale yeast rather than the liquid yeast, the anticipated ABV dropped a whole percentage point down to about 7.8% because the attenutation isn't as high. Also the FG is higher. Is this OK, or should I use WLP550 or 500, make a starter, and ferment at 65 - 68 degrees?

I'm debating ordering belgian ardness along with the mosaic hops and then using part of the extra pound of DME for the starter.

Ideally, this would be my final recipe:

Brew Method: Partial Mash
Style Name: Belgian Tripel
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Est. Efficiency: 65% (brew house)

ESTIMATED STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.078
Final Gravity: 1.018
ABV (standard): 7.94%
IBU (rager): 61.37
SRM (morey): 6.05

FERMENTABLES:
5 lb - Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light - (late addition)
2 lb - Belgian - Pilsner
2 lb - Corn Sugar - Dextrose - (late addition)
8 oz - American - White Wheat
8 oz - American - Carapils (Dextrine Malt)
8 oz - Belgian - CaraVienne
4 oz - Belgian - Aromatic

HOPS:
0.75 oz - Magnum for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Mosaic for 20 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings for 20 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Mosaic for 5 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings for 5 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
1 oz - Chinook for 5 days, Type: Leaf/Whole, Use: Dry Hop
1 oz - Mosaic for 5 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop

MASH STEPS:
1) Temperature, Temp: 152 F, Time: 90 min, Amount: 7 qt
2) Sparge, Temp: 152 F, Amount: 7 qt

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
1 Tablet- Whirlfloc Tablet, Time: 15 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil

YEAST:
White Labs - Trappist Ale Yeast WLP500
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If you wanted to use the T-58, you could pitch a more attenuative yeast (like US-05 or Nottingham) along with it or after a few days to help the beer dry out. However, I don't really care for T-58. I would use the 550; it's a very nice yeast, and starters aren't too difficult. Once the yeast gets going, it will generate enough heat for the beer to be a few degrees warmer than its surroundings, but if you have a heating pad you can wrap around the fermenter, that will help too.
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For mine I made a 1L starter and pitched the whole thing in. I had pretty vigorous fermentation within 8 hours. When I first pitched the yeast the temp was at 68, then during the most vigorous stage of the fermentation I noticed the temp had jumped up to 74. I actually had to open a window for an hour or so to cool it down. My apartment is kept pretty cool and after fermentation I noticed it dropped down to 65 so I wrapped my carboy in an old hoodie and a blanket. It's been right around 70 since then.

Anyway I would recommend going with a liquid yeast and making a starter. Also, don't forget a blowoff tube!! I can't really speak much on dry yeast as I've never used it, so it's totally up to you. When I tasted my beer a few days ago I really enjoyed the flavors that the Ardennes created. A little spicy and a nice fruitiness, but that might have been the Amarillo flavor as well. I'm bottling on Thursday or Friday so ill let you know how it tastes after the dry hop.
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Well I just ordered wlp500 (it had a lower temp range of 65-72 vs 68-78 for wlp550), and I also ordered 2oz of mosaic hops from rebelbrewer (they had the cheapest shipping for a small order like this). Hopefully it gets here by Saturday so that I can brew this weekend.

I had received the grains a couple weeks ago, but I had been waiting until the weather got a bit warmer and also, I have an altbier in my primary that I need to rack into the secondary. I typically do 10 days in the primary, 2 weeks in the secondary, and 2 weeks in the bottle. Do you think 10 days in the primary, 3 weeks in the secondary, and 3 weeks in the bottle will be enough before opening the first bottle of this tripel?
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Alright, here's the final recipe, I think I'm done making changes. I added 1/8 ounce of coriander to the recipe. I think it will help balance out and give some complexity to the bitterness of the hops. I also scrapped the carapils and I'm adding a full 2lbs of corn sugar.

Brew Method: Partial Mash
Style Name: Imperial IPA
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Est. Efficiency: 65% (brew house)

ESTIMATED STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.081
Final Gravity: 1.018
ABV (standard): 8.21%
IBU (rager): 61.37
SRM (morey): 6.13

FERMENTABLES:
5 lb - Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light - (late addition)
3 lb - Belgian - Pilsner
2 lb - Corn Sugar - Dextrose - (late addition)
8 oz - American - White Wheat
8 oz - Belgian - CaraVienne
4 oz - Belgian - Aromatic

HOPS:
0.75 oz - Magnum for 60 min, Type: Pellet
0.5 oz - Mosaic for 20 min, Type: Pellet
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings for 20 min, Type: Pellet
0.5 oz - Mosaic for 5 min, Type: Pellet
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings for 5 min, Type: Pellet
1 oz - Chinook for 5 days, Type: Pellet
1 oz - Mosaic for 5 days, Type: Pellet

MASH STEPS:
1) Temperature, Temp: 152 F, Time: 90 min, Amount: 7 qt
2) Sparge, Temp: 170 F, Amount: 7 qt

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
1 each - Whirlfloc Tablet, Time: 15 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil
0.125 oz - Coriander, Time: 15 min, Type: Spice, Use: Boil

YEAST:
White Labs - Trappist Ale Yeast WLP500

I'll let you know how it turns out. CHEERS!
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if the brewersfriend calculator is telling me that I will get a FG of about 1.018, do you guys think I could/will acheive a lower abv due to using the corn sugar? I don't believe that brewersfriend accounts for the fermentability of the grains/ingredients.
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So after 5 days in the primary, I'm still getting a bit of airlock activity. Most beers I brew stop most airlock activity after only 3 days and clear up for the most part by day 4. I will definitely stick with my plan to keep this in the primary for a full 2 weeks, and then 3 weeks in the secondary. I usually do 10 days and then 2 weeks.

The hops/sediment hasn't settled out at all and it is basically completely opaque. Hopefull after the bubbling stops it starts to clear up a bit. I'd like it a bit hazy, but nowhere near opaque.


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