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Old 01-24-2013, 11:34 PM   #31
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I saw one of P-J’s diagrams that had the emergency power off switch controlling a contactor with the NC contact instead of tripping the GFCI. Does anyone know where to find that diagram?



 
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:32 PM   #32
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Really bummed to bear that THE MAN with so much knowledge and generosity to this site is suffering some health issues! I like to think we're all a family here sometimes!

I've been trying to plan a RIMS Toolbox to work on 120v and I have no clue which diagram to go off of, anyone care to offer some helpful advice if our Buddy P-J is still under the weather? I'd like one with lights to let me know when the element is firing as well as an E-Stop, but I'm not sure if any of the above diagrams match that?



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Old 01-26-2013, 12:23 AM   #33
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Really bummed to bear that THE MAN with so much knowledge and generosity to this site is suffering some health issues! I like to think we're all a family here sometimes!

I've been trying to plan a RIMS Toolbox to work on 120v and I have no clue which diagram to go off of, anyone care to offer some helpful advice if our Buddy P-J is still under the weather? I'd like one with lights to let me know when the element is firing as well as an E-Stop, but I'm not sure if any of the above diagrams match that?
Paul,

Thank you for your kind words.
Here is a diagram that I just finished for you as I did not have one that really fit your description. I hope it matches your needs.

And as always - click on the image to see (and save) a full scale diagram printable on Tabloid paper (11" x 17")



I hope this helps you in your adventure.

P-J

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:38 AM   #34
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I saw one of P-Jís diagrams that had the emergency power off switch controlling a contactor with the NC contact instead of tripping the GFCI. Does anyone know where to find that diagram?
So sorry. I cannot invision a wiring plan that I made that really fits your description.

Was it perhaps a diagram with a mains power off swirch and contactor to drop all power?

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Old 01-26-2013, 01:29 AM   #35
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Paul,

Thank you for your kind words.
Here is a diagram that I just finished for you as I did not have one that really fit your description. I hope it matches your needs.

And as always - click on the image to see (and save) a full scale diagram printable on Tabloid paper (11" x 17")



I hope this helps you in your adventure.

P-J
I could kiss you. Fer'real.

Thank you so so much.

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Old 01-26-2013, 02:00 AM   #36
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I could kiss you. Fer'real.

Thank you so so much.
Please let us know how you make out in your build and brewing adventures.
I'm very interested in your adventure.

P-J
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:23 PM   #37
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P-J,
I can't remember where I saw the diagram but the style was your's. It was for someone who had bought an EPO switch which only had a NC contact (it seems like it would have been cheaper to buy another switch than to buy a contactor, but he may have already had one). I was going to go that route (using a contactor as the first thing in the box beside the EPO switch) since I'm running a 120V RIMs system just like MyNameIsPaul is planning and the GFCI plug is in the house and I'm brewing in the garage and would hesitate to use the EPO because I would have to go in the house to reset it.
Why do you prefer to trip the GFCI? At first I thought it was because it was cheaper. If the problem that makes you hit the EPO is really something that can shock you, then the GFCI would trip anyway, right?
Anyway, I’m glad that you are feeling better, at least good enough to draw diagrams again. Getting old is not for sissies.

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Old 01-28-2013, 02:05 AM   #38
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Wow! Auber Insturments is awsome.
I finished building my control panel Wed afternoon and when I plugged it in the contactors made this awful racket like I had wired it up as a buzzer. I checked the wiring and everything looked correct. I then wired 120 directly to the coil and it still made the racket so I was really bummed. But get this. Thursday morning I called Auber instruments and told them the problem and let them listen to the racket and Friday's mail had new contactors in it with a prepaid return mailing label. I can only imagine the problem getting this straightened out if I had bought the contactor off of eBay from China. They are quality people to work with.

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:44 PM   #39
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Paul,

Thank you for your kind words.
Here is a diagram that I just finished for you as I did not have one that really fit your description. I hope it matches your needs.

And as always - click on the image to see (and save) a full scale diagram printable on Tabloid paper (11" x 17")



I hope this helps you in your adventure.

P-J
P-J-

I want to use this scematic with the following exceptions;

-30amp circuit feeding a 3000w element
-Element will be in hlt
-Pump does NOT have to be on to fire the element
-No light for power to the element

If I understand correctly, or not, what I will need to do is;

- Simply omit the light shown next to the element. The heat switch will use the led for on status
- To remove the element dependancy on the pump, the wire leading out of post #8 on the PID will instead lead directly to the relay.

I appreciate your time and feedback.

Regards,
Kevin
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:40 PM   #40
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I'm not P-J, but your understanding is correct from what I can tell in the diagram.


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