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Old 01-17-2013, 05:04 PM   #1
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Hey,
I'm brewing a german pils, all 95% pilsner malt, 5% carafoam.

I'm in the middle of recirculation and the wort is running very cloudy! I've been doing it for about 20 mins and its still very cloudy. Is this possible for all pilsner malt? mashed at 148-147 for 75 mins. There was no grain left in the recirculation samples just cloudy wort that wouldn't seem like it would clear up no matter how long i recirculated.

Is this normal? I took an OG on my refractometer and it was 1.072. The wort tasted very sweet and it had those rainbow colored bubbles on the top which i heard somewhere that that is also a sign of conversion. Am i just paranoid or is something not right? Thanks!

 
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:15 PM   #2
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RDWHAHB!

Recirculating gets rid of grain bits and big particles. It also helps to set your grain bed for lautering.

Cold crashing, gelatin etc... will help to clear your beer at the appropriate time after fermentation and lagering.

If you feel ambitious, try a protein rest or decoction mash for an all pilsner malt bill.

If you're worried about conversion do an iodine test!

If you're still worried, mash for a while longer.

Remember to boil for 90mins with an all Pils bill and most of all RDWHAHB!

 
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:18 PM   #3
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All of my pilsner mashes have been cloudy, nothing a month of lagering doesn't clear up. I've heard it's due to the higher level of protein that pils malt has in it. I'm about to put a helles in the keg for lagering, it's still cloudy, but I know it'll be clear after it lagers.

 
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:18 PM   #4
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You're right. Just worried that something's wrong lol. This is my first lager and I already put a lot of time and money into getting all I need that I don't want it to go wrong. Thanks for the help!

Quick question: would unconverted sugars in the mash still give me the same OG as if they were all converted? For example if I ran wort from my mash tun after just adding the water and no conversion has taken place will that still give me the same OG after a 60 min sac rest? Thanks!

 
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:24 PM   #5
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think unconverted starches would throw off a gravity reading. That being said - it converted. I'm sure it did. If you hit your temperatures close, and held it for a full 60 minutes, it converted. In reality it probably converted in less than 30 minutes. Pils malt is quick in my experience.

 
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:34 PM   #6
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These photos show what I've experienced. The pitcher is the wort coming out of the mash, just before boiling. The sample is out of the fermenter before lagering. As you can see they're both cloudy as crap. I don't have a picture of the final (and I should, I'll have to add later). It's as clear as it can be.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:40 PM   #7
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Awesome, thanks for the pics because that is exactly what mine looked like. I would have added a pic but didn't have enough time!

 
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:40 PM   #8
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Make a hot scotchy and cool/pitch that sucker!

 
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:43 PM   #9
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The cold break is amazing on these too. If you take a small sample and put it in the freezer to cool quickly, it'll fall out quickly and you'll be amazed at the amount of break material.

 
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:56 PM   #10
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Make a hot scotchy and cool/pitch that sucker!
HAHA! I was considering having a hot scotchy and raising my glass for all the others that took off of work today to brew!

Man my brew day almost got as stressful as work!

 
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