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Old 01-10-2013, 07:59 PM   #1
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I'm currently getting together all the equipment that I need to do all grain. I'm wanting my HLT to be electric so I can regulate the temp better. I'm going to put a water heater element in a 50qt SS pot and found this element online at grainger http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/VAN...569?Pid=search. Will this be ok? I'm needing a 120v only. I'm wanting to use the STC-1000 for temp control. Also where is the best place to get a thermwell for the probe?

 
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:38 PM   #2
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The amperage draw on that element will exceed a normal household 20 amp 120 volt circuit. For a 20 amp circuit, you can go with 2000w, for 15 amp you can go with 1500w. Also, while a high watt density (HWD) element is fine for an HLT, if you ever wanted to use it in a mash or boil kettle you would be better off with low or ultra-low (LWD, ULWD).

 
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:05 PM   #3
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Thanks, I'll go with the 2000w. I'm no looking to go full boil just yet, might in the future

 
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:21 PM   #4
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Also, know that the STC-1000 can handle a max of 10 amps. So for a 1500W or 2000W element, you would have to use a relay of some sort.

 
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:29 PM   #5
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What would be the best (cheapest), found locally route for the relay? I can build or fabricate just about anything, just not very familiar with electrical. Just done basic electrical on jeeps and other vehicles, nothing really within a house other than ceiling fans.

Will a regular relay from say a light kit work, or will I need a AC version.

 
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:58 PM   #6
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what you really want is a pid not that STC-1000. since you need a relay anyway i'd just go PID + SSR (solid state relay) and have the right tool for the job.

that temp controller has no brain. it's going to overshoot temps, especially when heating from tap water temps.

 
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:16 AM   #7
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Bringing this thread back up due to progress. I'm going with a 2000 watt element and pid with ssr. What amp ssr will I need. Also anyone had the screw-in thermocoupler, can I screw it directly into the kettle and what size hole are they generally.

 
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:08 AM   #8
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A 25 Amp SSR should be fine.

 
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:52 AM   #9
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Sweet

 
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:40 PM   #10
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the bigger the SSR is over the required size of the load, the less heat it will generate and the longer it will function. i'd go with a 30 or 40 amp since the price difference isn't very big.

for the thermowell, i believe auber does 1/4" and 1/2" so you'll need to get a weldless kit to match the thermocouple you're using and then drill the appropriate size hole. i use 1/2" on all my stuff so that i can have the same size couplers as my ball valves, etc in case i ever need to move things around.

 
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