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Old 01-10-2013, 04:26 AM   #31
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If you're getting a hot alcohol bite, it's a crappy Belgian.

My guess is that you're not used to the big fruity esters that you get from the Belgian yeasts.

Hmm... Maybe I should crack a bottle of Stone Cali-Belgique tonight. Great stuff

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Old 01-10-2013, 04:56 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by glockspeed31 View Post
Ok, I have tried a few different Belgian brews and can not get over the sharp sweet bite that they have, if that is a proper description. I tried a Homebrew Triple, a New Belgian Tripple, a Delirium Tremens and a Delirium Noel and they all have that "bite" to them that I just can't get over. I drink a large variety of beers and this style just doesn't suit me.

What is this taste/bite that I am tasting in these beers.

I'm a "belgophile" as far as that goes, and I happen to really dislike all three of the beers you mention. Cloying and hot. I tend to find most tripels a bit useless anyway, except those few like Westmalle that have enough bitterness to back up the alcoholic sweetness.

(Belgian is not a "style." The variety of beers from that country is mind-boggling, and indeed Belgian beer people tend to reject the styles that American homebrewers seem to memorize. But I digress.)

My suggestion? Go for lighter, drier stuff. Orval. Taras Boulba. Saison Dupont. Please don't reject all of Belgian beer for a few strong ales that might be better drunk (IMO!) out of pint-sized tins by homeless guys in train stations.

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Old 01-10-2013, 05:01 PM   #33
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I'm not a big fan of Belgian's but I really like Stone's IPA brewed with Belgian yeast. The hops and funkyness are great together.

Stone Cali Belgique

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Old 01-10-2013, 05:01 PM   #34
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Taste like sweet tea that someone put everclear into me, the pale ales. I do like the stouts and the Bret B beers.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:07 PM   #35
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Different people, different tastes. I don't like Belgian beers very much, and I don't care for wheat beer either.

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Old 01-11-2013, 03:47 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by rexbanner View Post
Ah, my friend, you haven't tasted my quad. 11% ABV and no bite whatsoever.

I agree, Chimay Red is my favorite commercial dubbel. When you become well-versed in brewing this style, you will see that you can brew a dubbel as good or better than Chimay. The problem is that these beers are among some of the most difficult to brew, from recipe formulation to fermentation.

My two favorite brewing styles are Trappist-style ales, and hoppy American beers. They are not mutually exclusive.
Coincidentally I"m about to brew my first chimay red dubbel. As this is my first attempt with the recipe and yeast, I have little idea of how it will turn out. But I thought I'd bounce the recipe off if anyone can supply some advice.

3 gal

Maris Otter 6.7 lbs
Cara Munich 5 oz
Aromatic 2 oz
Chocolate malt 1 oz
Caramelized sugar 10oz

Styrian Golding Pellets at 60 minutes .8 oz and 30 minutes .3 oz

WL trappist ale.

60F ambient fermentation (I also have 70F available but it seems wrong)

I didn't create this recipe but I trusted it even though the grain doesn't seem right now that I'm actually reading it. Because the grains seem too complicated and not belgian or german.

Maybe one day I will be able to even fathom the quad but today I'm all about the dub.

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Old 01-11-2013, 04:01 AM   #37
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Because your brain says so.

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Old 01-11-2013, 05:38 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by Chromebrew View Post
Rest assured its not green, its been brewing basically the same way with the same yeasts for thousands of years Pretty cool being able to taste history if you ask me.
Intellectually, I know this. Unfortunately, my roommate made crappy beer with a strong taste of yeast (hell it was probably brewer's yeast from the health food store or bread yeast from the supermarket since there were no LHBS back then). Belgian beers remind me of those beers.

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Old 01-11-2013, 07:08 AM   #39
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To each their own. I like most Belgian beer, but am not into IPAs much. Everybody has their own tastes and things they like.
Besides flavors driven by yeast (phenols and esters), high levels of carbonation (which gives a bite), and drinking them too cool another reason some people don't like them is that they finish dry. Some like their beers with a higher FG, and Belgian beers are generally "digestible" and finish with a lower FG.

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Old 01-11-2013, 07:18 AM   #40
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You probably haven't found the right one. There's almost for sure some belgian you like unless you only like hoppy pale ales and that's it.

Some of my favorite Belgian (or Belgian inspired) beers

Chimay (can't go wrong with any of them)
Westvleyern (almost for sure spelling that wrong, I think I had 10 and loved it)
Ommegang Three Philosophers and Rare Vos
Brooklyn Local 1
Riverhorse Tripel Horse
Allagash Black, White, Four, and Yakuza

I think the real key is finding the right one for your taste. I typically like big triples, strongs or quads, because they have a multitude of fighting flavors.

Also remember like homebrew, be careful how you pour your belgians.

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