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Old 01-07-2013, 09:07 PM   #11
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10 vs 20# of grain



 
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:13 PM   #12
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But why do very high gravity batch would need a bigger pot?
Efficiency can suffer to the point were adding more grain adds less sugar. See here for details:
http://woodlandbrew.blogspot.com/201...ore-sugar.html


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Old 01-07-2013, 09:14 PM   #13
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In all honesty, if you are stuck doing the boils inside your best bet is to get 2 kettles and divide the wort into two vessels to boil and then combine in the primary after chilling. I do 6.25 gallon batches and my 10 kettle is barely large enough to handle the pre boil volume-I use Ferm cap to help limit boil overs big time! I wish I had gone to a 15G kettle so its on my list

There are countless threads here of people that try to get 7-9 gallons of wort boiling on stoves and they just can't get a vigorous boil going without the addition of a heat stick type element as well to help out the burner

Higher gravity beers do not require a bigger pot but a bigger tun, like 10 gallons that will accommodate about 23# of grain. You would still be collecting the same pre boil volume to boil.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:38 PM   #14
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In all honesty, if you are stuck doing the boils inside your best bet is to get 2 kettles and divide the wort into two vessels to boil and then combine in the primary after chilling. I do 6.25 gallon batches and my 10 kettle is barely large enough to handle the pre boil volume-I use Ferm cap to help limit boil overs big time! I wish I had gone to a 15G kettle so its on my list

There are countless threads here of people that try to get 7-9 gallons of wort boiling on stoves and they just can't get a vigorous boil going without the addition of a heat stick type element as well to help out the burner
As I said a heat stick might be a good idea. I would need to borrow a big pot and see how fast it can boil water with just my stove. (Apparently some are better than other so I'd have to see). I'm also highly concerned that I put too much weight on my glass stove top.

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Higher gravity beers do not require a bigger pot but a bigger tun, like 10 gallons that will accommodate about 23# of grain. You would still be collecting the same pre boil volume to boil.
Ah yeah a bigger tun. But I guess if you need a bigger tun you would need more water still so if your pot isn't big enough, you will still have a big problem with water needs.

 
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:52 PM   #15
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As I said a heat stick might be a good idea. I would need to borrow a big pot and see how fast it can boil water with just my stove. (Apparently some are better than other so I'd have to see). I'm also highly concerned that I put too much weight on my glass stove top.

Definitely a worthwhile concern to have as it will be quite heavy!



Ah yeah a bigger tun. But I guess if you need a bigger tun you would need more water still so if your pot isn't big enough, you will still have a big problem with water needs.
Yes, water management can be tricky. I use one pot to heat my strike water for the mash. Once that water is used up I heat up my sparge water while the mash is going. Then I collect my runnings in my boil kettle so yes, ideally you have two large pots plus the mash tun. This means you essentially are placing two heavy pots on your stove top!

Like I said earlier, you may be better off splitting your boil into 2 5 gallon pots and the weight is then distributed over 2 separate burners.
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Yes, water management can be tricky. I use one pot to heat my strike water for the mash. Once that water is used up I heat up my sparge water while the mash is going. Then I collect my runnings in my boil kettle so yes, ideally you have two large pots plus the mash tun. This means you essentially are placing two heavy pots on your stove top!

Like I said earlier, you may be better off splitting your boil into 2 5 gallon pots and the weight is then distributed over 2 separate burners.
I would need another IC for that, and even that, I cannot plug two on my sink. Would need to make some modifications :S And cooling one after the other might be taking too long isn't it?

 
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I would need another IC for that, and even that, I cannot plug two on my sink. Would need to make some modifications :S And cooling one after the other might be taking too long isn't it?
Not really, yes in a perfect world you chill as quick as possible but if you only have 2.5g in each pot finished wort it won't take that long to chill
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:28 AM   #18
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Not really, yes in a perfect world you chill as quick as possible but if you only have 2.5g in each pot finished wort it won't take that long to chill
Should end with 3g in each for 6g batch But yeah. Cooling 1 worth, remove and immerse the IC in the hot wort is not too dangerous for infection? (I know the IC was "sanitized" during the boil of the first, but I was wondering if the process of moving from a cool wort to a hot wort was bad).

Do people easily succesfully do full boil in two pot at the same time? You need to divide your recipe in two I guess and do the same thing at the same moment in each.

 
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Before I moved, I used the glass top stove in my apartment to boil 5-6 gal. batches. I have a 60 qt pot that I put on two burners. I would cover the tip of the pot with foil (don't have a lid big enough) just until it started boiling. I was planning on building a heat stick to speed up getting to boil, but the new home has a really good gas stove and a garage.

 
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Before I moved, I used the glass top stove in my apartment to boil 5-6 gal. batches. I have a 60 qt pot that I put on two burners. I would cover the tip of the pot with foil (don't have a lid big enough) just until it started boiling. I was planning on building a heat stick to speed up getting to boil, but the new home has a really good gas stove and a garage.
Yeah, in a near future I'd like to move and get a garage too. This would make my life a lot easier.

So 6 GAL batch on the glass stove top was fine? So you'd start with 7-8-9 GAL and the glass didn't break?



 
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