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Old 01-07-2013, 05:09 AM   #1
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Default Warm lager, or cold ale?

So I have a spot in my house that's right about 54-56 all the time during the winter. That's a touch warm for lagers, and a bit cold for most ale strains. So my dilemma is this: go warm on the lager or cold on the ale?

I'm looking for the most lager-like outcome regardless of the yeast. Clean, crisp, beer. As for the actual lagering part, that's tougher since I pretty much have to lager at the same temp, or stick it out doors temperature permitting.

Here's what I'm thinking are options.
Nottingham. Can work down to 54F.
Wyeast 1007 / WLP029. Work down to 56F.
WLP810 San Fran Lager. Reportedly clean from 50-65. Typically 58-65 but works down to 50F.
WLP820 Oktoberfest
Saflager 34/70. 48-59F.
Wyeast 1728 Scottish ale - down to 55F.

Any suggestions?


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Old 01-07-2013, 05:55 AM   #2
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I just had to move my altbier up from the basement cause I thought I was too cold.


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Alt and Kolsch ale yeast do very well at cooler temps. San Francisco Lager yeast does well on the warm side.

I think your conditions are good for doing Calif Common (Anchor Steam), Kolsch, and both Northern German and Dusseldorf Alt's.
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Alt and Kolsch ale yeast do very well at cooler temps. San Francisco Lager yeast does well on the warm side.

I think your conditions are good for doing Calif Common (Anchor Steam), Kolsch, and both Northern German and Dusseldorf Alt's.
I didn't see the airlock bubble it was fermenting cause I often the lid and saw signs but I still thought it was going slow
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Another option is Saflager S-23. Good range for that yeast as well.
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Another option is Saflager S-23. Good range for that yeast as well.
I used the Nottingham that came with the kit. It was a Christmas present. The best one my aunt ever got me
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I didn't see the airlock bubble it was fermenting cause I often the lid and saw signs but I still thought it was going slow
I ferment Alt and Kolsch at 60F
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I ferment Alt and Kolsch at 60F
Have you ever been to New Jersey in the winter?
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Yeah, use to be stationed at Willow Grove, PA....you need a FermWrap on a controller
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Hi - newbie here.
I got my first kit for xmas - Rocky Mountain Amber. I have same situation, a room off our kitchen that stays between 48-56 this time of year. So I'm following the kits instructions for lager fermention, pitch both yeast packages (Nothingham). About 24hrs after brew day, I was seeing bubbles (1 every 5 sec), and this morning (about 36hrs now), I'm seeing 1 every sec - so seems to be happy!


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