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Old 01-02-2013, 11:19 PM   #1
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So I bought a pack of various and sundry hops fairly cheap. I've decided make a one gallon batch with each variety to get a good feel for each one. Kind of like a SMaSH recipe but I will probably only use light or maybe amber DME since all I care about is the hops. I'm not really even trying to make good beer but that would be a nice byproduct. So for those of you more familiar with SMaSH type recipes, what would you recommended for OG, IBU, hops schedule, etc to get the best handle on these hops?
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Don't know if it will matter or not but the hops are : summit, warrior, willamette, nugget, galena, and Columbus.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:09 AM   #3
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what you do is go for a fixed amount of IBUs at 60 mins,say 20? and add more hops at 20,15,10,5 fixed weights to end up with the same ballpark IBUs at the end and a huge hop flavour and aroma.

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what you do is go for a fixed amount of IBUs at 60 mins,say 20? and add more hops at 20,15,10,5 fixed weights to end up with the same ballpark IBUs at the end and a huge hop flavour and aroma.
So essentially a hop burst ipa schedule?
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:37 AM   #5
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hey ryush, i am doing something similar this weekend. i do a lot of pilot batches, so i have a brewtarget setting for .75 gallon size (enough headspace in reused apple juice juges). i am just going to mash enough for 7 batches in my normal cooler following the hop stoopid bill (97% 2row/3% victory).

the plan is to shoot for 1.068 + 50 IBUs using about 1oz each. most are about .2oz bittering, .4oz flameout + long immersion, .4oz dryhop for 3/4gal.

 
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So essentially a hop burst ipa schedule?
IMO/IME, hop bursting will give you the best idea of what a hop will give you for flavors and aromas. If the hop doesn't have enough AA% in it to do without a bittering addition, just be sure that it's only what you need. Use the majority for 20 minutes forward additions. My MO SMaSH IPA (an English IPA) was all hop bursting additions (20, 15, 10, 5, 1). Used 7.5oz of EKG for just over 6 gallons into kegs. Came out GREAT too.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:52 AM   #7
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hey ryush, i am doing something similar this weekend. i do a lot of pilot batches, so i have a brewtarget setting for .75 gallon size (enough headspace in reused apple juice juges). i am just going to mash enough for 7 batches in my normal cooler following the hop stoopid bill (97% 2row/3% victory).

the plan is to shoot for 1.068 + 50 IBUs using about 1oz each. most are about .2oz bittering, .4oz flameout + long immersion, .4oz dryhop for 3/4gal.
Thanks. I might do something similar as far as the gravity and IBUs go.

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IMO/IME, hop bursting will give you the best idea of what a hop will give you for flavors and aromas. If the hop doesn't have enough AA% in it to do without a bittering addition, just be sure that it's only what you need. Use the majority for 20 minutes forward additions. My MO SMaSH IPA (an English IPA) was all hop bursting additions (20, 15, 10, 5, 1). Used 7.5oz of EKG for just over 6 gallons into kegs. Came out GREAT too.
Cool thanks. I have 3 oz of each hop so I won't have problems getting whatever IBUs in a 1 gallon batch.
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Got to pull a pint of MO now... Gimme some MO!!
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:48 AM   #9
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if just hop bursting, how important would a 60 minute boil be?

 
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if just hop bursting, how important would a 60 minute boil be?
Depends on the recipe. I usually aim for at least a 60 minute boil so that I can mash better. If you're going extract, you'll need to check with others (I haven't brewed extract in over two years).
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