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Old 01-03-2013, 08:19 PM   #11
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I have once. I'm not sure it added anything measurable to the flavor as it wasn't much.
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:35 AM   #12
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Thinking about trying a honey wheat and adding 1lb (by weight) 10 minutes prior to end of boil. I'd like to add another .5 lbs when the fermentation is nearing completion. My question is how would I calculate ABV since I would be taking a measurement before I pitch yeast and again when I'm done. If adding ingredients DURING fermentation, how do I calculate as my FG reading would be affected by the new ingredients?

 
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:05 AM   #13
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Thinking about trying a honey wheat and adding 1lb (by weight) 10 minutes prior to end of boil. I'd like to add another .5 lbs when the fermentation is nearing completion. My question is how would I calculate ABV since I would be taking a measurement before I pitch yeast and again when I'm done. If adding ingredients DURING fermentation, how do I calculate as my FG reading would be affected by the new ingredients?
Per Palmer, honey has about 38ppg. So half a pound in 5 gallons would contribute about 3.8 points. So increase your OG by .0038. So if your hydrometer read 1.050, use 1.0538 as your starting gravity for %Alc calculations.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:25 AM   #14
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Masterfool101,


Thanks!!

 
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:10 PM   #15
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I've been trying to get the honey flavor in my wheat beer much like the Blue Moon version. I've asked a lot of questions and tried everything I've been told to do, yet am still not getting that strong honey flavor.

I was told to steep honey malt, but less than a pound. I was told to make a mini mash with some 2 row. I was told to put the honey at flameout. I've been told to add it to the fermentor after fermentation has died down. None of this has had the effect I was looking for. And with all of them I have used 1/2 lb of honey malt along with honey (~2 lbs). I've even used honey for priming.

This last time I added 3 3/4 lbs of honey a week after fermentation and it sorta has a honey flavor, but it really thinned the beer out too much.

I was recently advised to use 2 lbs of honey malt. That's what I'll try next go around.
What kind of honey are you using?

 
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:37 PM   #16
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Cheap honey. I assume it's wild flower.
Some of from the local grocer under their brand, and some have come in 5 lb bottles with a handle from WalMart (I think).
I've saved those bottles in case I buy LME locally, who would sell it in clear plastic bags.
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:59 PM   #17
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Very useful info from the National Honey Board:

http://www.honey.com/images/uploads/.../home_brew.pdf

 
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:15 PM   #18
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I used clover honey for my White House Honey Ale AG clone, added 1.5 lb at 5 minutes out, and it's terrific. The honey flavor and especially aroma is present but not overpowering. It also doesn't add much to the final sweetness (mine finished at 1.015, about what the beer would have finished at all by itself), and I think it reduces the beer's body slightly, giving it a clean, easy drinking finish. I'd highly recommend it. Haven't tried other honeys so it's hard to compare.
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Cheap honey. I assume it's wild flower.
Some of from the local grocer under their brand, and some have come in 5 lb bottles with a handle from WalMart (I think).
I've saved those bottles in case I buy LME locally, who would sell it in clear plastic bags.
Yeah, grocery store honey is usually very mild and generally blended, so it won't add a ton of character. That's why you're getting disappointing results. You should find a honey supplier or some place that specializes in quality honey. Most of the honey I use is organic wildflower honey I buy in bulk from a supplier - about 30 lbs for $85. It really makes a difference... there's a ton of floral character in it. In fact, the quality is such that I refuse to buy grocery store honey at all anymore.

I'm from Canada so I probably can't help much finding great sources for you, but perhaps others will be able to point you in the direction of a quality supplier. Try asking in the mead section, or on a different mead site.

As for how to use it, you'll retain the most character by adding it, unheated, after the initial fermentation. I know you said you've done that, but doing this with a high quality honey will make all the difference.

 
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:30 PM   #20
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Thanks for that bit of info!
I had no idea that wild yeasts could be in the honey.
I wash my yeast, and could have something else in there. I don't notice anything off, but that doesn't mean there isn't something in there that can grow more numerous next time, or the following. I'll need to keep that in mind when I brew a wheat again.
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