Coldbreak Brewing Giveaway - Open to All!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Brew Science > Water report - would like input.
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-28-2012, 08:18 PM   #1
vogtenstein222
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 145
Liked 14 Times on 13 Posts

Default

I am still planning on doing a fully up to date test, and possibly just using bottled distilled water, but I thought I'd pop up the PDF report for 2012 of my citys water. Let me know if there's any reason for immediate concern please.
Here's the link:
http://www.newtonkansas.com/Modules/...?documentid=87
EDIT: Apparently this link is a dud. Transcribed version a couple posts down.


vogtenstein222 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 09:28 PM   #2
ajdelange
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: McLean/Ogden, Virginia/Quebec
Posts: 7,591
Liked 993 Times on 789 Posts
Likes Given: 28

Default

That link brings up the minutes of a planning commission meeting which, while fascinating, have little to do with water.


ajdelange is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 10:22 PM   #3
vogtenstein222
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 145
Liked 14 Times on 13 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajdelange
That link brings up the minutes of a planning commission meeting which, while fascinating, have little to do with water.
Well there's me feeling like a jackass. I'll just transcribe everything it says. Heaven forbid a link actually work. Next post will have the transcribed version.
vogtenstein222 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 11:06 PM   #4
vogtenstein222
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 145
Liked 14 Times on 13 Posts

Default

Alkalinity, total - 200
Calcium - 63
Chloride - 30
Conductivity - 570
Corrosivity - 0.085
Hardness, total - 190
Magnesium - 9.3
PH - 7.6
Phosphorus - 0.18
Potassium - 1.6
Silica - 29
Sodium - 48
Solids, total dissolved - 350
Sulfer - 23
Zinc - 0.015

Arsenic - .0061
Barium - 0.20
Chromium - 0.004
Fluoride - .69
Nitrate - 4.4
Selenium - 0.0053

All measurements in mg/L.
vogtenstein222 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 11:09 PM   #5
vogtenstein222
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 145
Liked 14 Times on 13 Posts

Default

Just typed that entire thing out...it wouldn't post. Here's a screen shot of the page.
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3260923748.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	67.1 KB
ID:	90798  
vogtenstein222 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 11:11 PM   #6
vogtenstein222
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 145
Liked 14 Times on 13 Posts

Default

Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3528679106.jpg
Views:	61
Size:	67.1 KB
ID:	90799
vogtenstein222 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 11:13 PM   #7
vogtenstein222
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 145
Liked 14 Times on 13 Posts

Default

Well...have 3 versions. My phones a freakin piece. Anyway, there they are. Input is appreciated!
vogtenstein222 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 03:37 AM   #8
mabrungard
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mabrungard's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Carmel, IN
Posts: 3,303
Liked 324 Times on 269 Posts
Likes Given: 30

Default

The high alkalinity is the main problem. The alkalinity may be to the point that acidification won't work well unless phosphoric or a mineral acid is used. For instance hydrochloric or sulfuric to add chloride or sulfate ions while knocking out the alkalinity. They are quite dangerous acids though.

The rest of the ions are modest. If dealing with acids is not for you, then dilution or replacement with RO water is a good option.
__________________
Martin B
Carmel, IN
BJCP National
Foam Blowers of Indiana (FBI)

Brewing Water Information at:
https://sites.google.com/site/brunwater/

Like Bru'n Water on Facebook for occasional discussions on brewing water and Bru'n Water
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brun-...?ref=bookmarks
mabrungard is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 04:40 AM   #9
vogtenstein222
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 145
Liked 14 Times on 13 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mabrungard
The high alkalinity is the main problem. The alkalinity may be to the point that acidification won't work well unless phosphoric or a mineral acid is used. For instance hydrochloric or sulfuric to add chloride or sulfate ions while knocking out the alkalinity. They are quite dangerous acids though.

The rest of the ions are modest. If dealing with acids is not for you, then dilution or replacement with RO water is a good option.
It's probably obvious but there are no dumb questions I guess....what is RO water?
And I am planning on probably using jugged distilled water.
vogtenstein222 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:54 PM   #10
ajdelange
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: McLean/Ogden, Virginia/Quebec
Posts: 7,591
Liked 993 Times on 789 Posts
Likes Given: 28

Default

If you divide a chamber by a vertical membrane permeable to water molecules but nothing else and fill it with pure water the pressure across the membrane will be 0. If you now dissolve some salt(s) in the water on one side of the membrane the pressure on the pure water side will be higher than the pressure on the salty side because pure water needs to get into the salty side to dilute the salt solution in order to equalize the 'chemical potential' of water on the two sides. This pressure is called 'osmotic pressure'. The osmotic pressure will force water through the membrane into the salt solution. If pressure is applied in the opposite direction i.e. if the salty side is put at higher pressure the osmotic pressure is reversed and water will (provided that the applied pressure is higher than the osmotic pressure) flow from the salty side to the pure water side. Thus water can be purified by isolating it on one side of a membrane and applying pressure to it. Pure (or nearly pure) water will pass through the membrane to the low pressure side. A system which purifies water in this way is called a "Reverse Osmosis" system abbreviated "RO"


ajdelange is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
North Penn Water Authority (Montgomery Co., PA) Water Report lebshiff21 Brew Science 11 04-30-2014 10:13 PM
Richmond, VA Water Report - Can't find the Ca or Mg in water report alers22 Brew Science 2 10-29-2012 01:00 PM
Input on Water Report Please jakecpunut Brew Science 2 06-07-2012 05:21 PM
Received Water Report, Input Appreciated tfratzke Brew Science 6 06-04-2012 01:06 AM
Water Engineering for PA : AJs Water Primer based on Ward Lab Report mrcastellino Brew Science 4 11-22-2011 04:55 AM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS