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Old 12-20-2012, 11:46 PM   #1
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Hey All,

I'm having a crack at an IPA, following this recipe but with the differences in that I have a different set of hops, when would you add what to this brew?

Amount Item Type % or IBU
9.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 64.29 %
2.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 14.29 %
2.00 lb White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 14.29 %
1.00 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 7.14 %
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 19.8 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (45 min) Hops 15.4 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (30 min) Hops 12.9 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 8.3 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale


Everything the same other than Hops:

2 Chinook 1oz
1 Soriachi Ace 1oz
1Citria 1oz

Can I still make something awesome here? I have thus far in my brewing career managed to make a pigs ear of every batch


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Old 12-20-2012, 11:49 PM   #2
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I would definitely cut down the crystal malt by at least half, even though that wasn't your question. It's WAY too much crystal malt! You can even leave the crystal malt out with good results. I'd cut the victory a bit also.

As far as hopping, I'd go with something like this:

1 ounce chinook 60 minutes
.75 ounce sorarchi ace 15 minutes
.75 ounce chinook 10 minutes
1 ounce citra flame out

Dryhop with leftover hops, along with another ounce of citra if you have it!


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Old 12-20-2012, 11:54 PM   #3
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Awesome thanks! Too late to take out the Crystal..

How many days in would you dry hop?

And a total noob question, those hops added up to and including flame out - would you leave them in the primary or remove before primary? I do like it hoppy..but in the past thought to pull them out after the boil (in a bag)
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Nevermind - just read this- thanks again Yooper http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/when...29/index2.html
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Holy cow that's a ton of victory and crystal in there. I hope you mashed low, and used a hearty yeast, and a ton of hops... That or like a really, really sweet beer!
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Well... truth be told there is no Victory, its special B. I was in the store reading the recipe looking at the wall of grains and coundn't find it so opted for the most exciting sounding option.

I decided to chuck in all the hops (in the same order as suggested but all the packs) and am stoked to get a reading of 10.060 for the first time ever -please don't tell me it will taste like pants now...
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I def would not have substituted Special B for victory, victory is more along the lines of a biscuit if you are looking for a sub.
You are gonna have tons of caramel flavors in that beer and you may wanna get more hops to dry hop with to let the hops shine if you are looking for more of a hop flavor
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Ouch! Three pounds of crystal, especially with a whole pound of special B is going to give you a beer that is unbalanced. next time use no more than 5% total of crystal malts! You've got, what? 22%? Well, think of it as a sweet American amber and not an IPA and it might not be too bad!
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I think you guys are in a different position from me, I've made 2 lots of bottle bombs followed by a starting gravity of 10.020 and as my 4th brew I won't need any imagination to taste a delicious and alcoholic amber IPA! I'm just hoping it doesn't explode or taste like cherry coke (though I would take the latter)
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I think you guys are in a different position from me, I've made 2 lots of bottle bombs followed by a starting gravity of 10.020 and as my 4th brew I won't need any imagination to taste a delicious and alcoholic amber IPA! I'm just hoping it doesn't explode or taste like cherry coke (though I would take the latter)
If you are having bottle bomb issues you may need to look at things other than the recipe, mostly you are bottling too early and not letting the beer finish fermenting. Start there.
As far as your gravity reading I'm assuming you meant your FG @ 1.020 which for certain styles and based off of the OG ins't out of line. You really need to document your process and take readings if you are having that many issues. Also make sure everything is clean before you start and sanitize, sanitize, sanitize


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