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Old 12-19-2012, 07:09 AM   #1
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So took a growler of porter, stuck it in a pair of tupperware bowls and tossed em in the freezer to try it out. Placed them in at about 2:30pm and just cleaned out the ice and taste the remaining...uhh beer (?) Well it's got a hell of a kick thats for sure.

I know by all technical reasonings it is no longer beer but I was bored. I think next time I would rather use a good flavorful barley wine instead to do this with.

Just thought I would share and I will get some photos tomorrow.


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Old 12-19-2012, 07:35 AM   #2
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Pointing out that freeze distillation is illegal in the US, and as such discussion not allowed on this board. Contact your congress critter to get the law changed. Also be aware that digital photos may have metadata embedded that include the geographical location of the picture.
No, it's not illegal. This has been argued many times on this board, and last time I checked, discussion about freeze distillation was still permitted here.

Freeze "distillation" is a misnomer... "freeze concentration" is the more accurate term. And again, it's legal. If it wasn't, then the BJCP's category/style 5D would be extremely controversial as every single entry would be illegal by definition.

You should really double check before declaring certain topics off-limits. You made the poor guy delete his entire post!


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Old 12-19-2012, 07:45 AM   #3
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OK. I am curious now. What are we talking about that we maybe shouldn't be talking about? Or am I going to have to google it?
A lot simpler than I thought but heres the wiki on it

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fract...e_distillation
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:30 PM   #4
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OK. I am curious now. What are we talking about that we maybe shouldn't be talking about? Or am I going to have to google it?

Eisbeer is OK - it's both legal and OK for this forum. It's the result of "freeze concentration". Many, many threads covering this... just look a the bottom of the page.

Distillation, in which heat is used to evaporate and then re-condense the alcohol from the beer, is not allowed to be discussed on this forum.
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The technical (or is it slang?) term for this with wine is "jacking" such as applejack, and it is completely legal in the us. It doesn't always taste great when it's done, but if done correctly it can be alright.

It is still beer when you freeze concentrate, just, well, concentrated beer. As passedpawn said, eisbeer is freeze concentrated dopplebock that is definitely still beer. On the other end of the quality scale, ice beers like keystone ice and natural ice are also freeze concentrated.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:42 PM   #6
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The guys from Brew TV did an episode on this Called "Eis is Nice": URL: http://youtu.be/8_qU5UwPNxk
Basic Brewing Video did one as well where they discussed the legal non-issues:
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:32 PM   #7
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Please stop threadjacking (pun intended) with the legal debate. Take that to another thread. We do allow the discussion of freeze concentration on this forum. Please keep the thread on topic.
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I tried this once (from a mild, IIRC). It worked, but the flavor was not very good.

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Does the ABV for the beer need to be fairly high in order to achieve a better flavor? Most people I've seen do this with barley wines or RIS. Or are some styles just better than others for this method?
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I did this with some failed barley wine and the few bottles of it I have left are great.

My favorite thing to freeze concentrate is apple wine. This is commonly referred to as "apple jack". (No it does not taste like the cereal or the JD and pucker shot.) I actually have about 3 gallons that has been sitting on whiskey bbl chips for about 3 weeks now and I will start the freeze concentration of this soon.


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