Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Recipes/Ingredients > Red IPA Attempt
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-12-2012, 04:48 PM   #11
Odin_Brews
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: golden, CO
Posts: 265
Liked 19 Times on 18 Posts
Likes Given: 10

Default

Are you going to use some flame out hops or dry hop? At 90 IBU I would probably throw in a couple ounces toward the last ten minutes of the boil and couple oz dry hop, but then I do love hoppy beers!


Odin_Brews is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 04:51 PM   #12
Chris7687
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Posts: 485
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Odin - I might up the 5 minute addition to 0.5 ounce of Cascade. Still debating on what to dry hop with, probably will be whatever I have on hand and open at the time. This is a 2.5 gallon recipe, so not trying to put to many hops into the batch! 90 IBU's is a pretty hefty IPA as it is. Love my hoppy beers too!


Chris7687 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 04:56 PM   #13
Jayhem
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Culpeper, VA
Posts: 2,639
Liked 277 Times on 224 Posts
Likes Given: 1252

Default

I think MO malt is a waste on a hoppy IPA especially with those speciality malts in there.
__________________
Next up: Amber Ale
Primary 1&2: 90 Min IPA clone
Primary 3&4: Belgian Wit
Keg #1: White Mosaic Pale Ale
Keg #2: Empty
Drinking: Amber Ale, White Mosaic Pale Ale
Jayhem is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 04:58 PM   #14
ksbrain
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mystic, CT
Posts: 1,018
Liked 11 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

IMO you need a lot more late hops. A quarter of an ounce of hops will disappear in 90 IBU. Assuming the Amarillo is a 20 minute flavor addition and the Cascade is a 5 minute addition as you mentioned, I would do an ounce of each, then cut down the Columbus as needed to hit your target IBU. Dry hop with all three, like a half ounce each.
ksbrain is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 06:14 PM   #15
Chris7687
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Posts: 485
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Wouldn't 1.5 ounces in dry hopping be pretty potent? I usually dry hop with only a ounce for 5 gallons.

Also, I know this is a side note thing but does anyone get a nasty haze to their beer after dry hopping with pellets? I have clear beers after fermentation, but the last two pales I dry hopped with have a very thick (wheat looking) haze to them now.
Chris7687 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 06:53 PM   #16
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UP of Michigan
Posts: 65,906
Liked 6206 Times on 4420 Posts
Likes Given: 1651

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris7687 View Post
GrogNerd - Thanks for the advice.

I think I am going with the combination of the advices.

6 lbs - MO
12 oz - Vienna
8 oz - Carared
5 oz - Melanoiden
4.8 oz - Caramel 120

Est. OG - 1.091
SRM - 14.1

Hops:
1 oz Columbus (12.0 AA) @ 70.2 IBUS
0.5 oz Amarillo (8.5 AA) @ 19 IBUS
0.25 Cascade (5.5 AA) @ 1.6 IBUS
Total IBUS: 90.8.... Did I mention this was an Imperial Red IPA!!

Going to make the brew this week, bottle in January, and give a report towards the end of January.
That's an awful lot of melanoiden malt. It's "intensely malty"- a ramped up Munich malt, and I would seriously consider leaving it out. If you really want intense malt aroma, you could use a bit, but I only use about 4 ounces in a 5 gallon batch in beers I want a huge malty aroma in.

As far as hopping, I'd cut the bittering hops and amp up the late hops.

Like this:
.35 ounce bittering (or to 40-50 IBUs with this addition)
.5 ounce 15 minute
.5 ounce 10 minute
.5 ounce 5 minute
.5 ounce flame out
Dryhop with 1 ounce.
__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006

Follow me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
But I'm pretty boring so don't expect much!
https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
Yooper is online now
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 06:56 PM   #17
bferullo
Senior Member
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
bferullo's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Bel Air, MD
Posts: 499
Liked 21 Times on 18 Posts
Likes Given: 16

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris7687 View Post
Wouldn't 1.5 ounces in dry hopping be pretty potent? I usually dry hop with only a ounce for 5 gallons.

Also, I know this is a side note thing but does anyone get a nasty haze to their beer after dry hopping with pellets? I have clear beers after fermentation, but the last two pales I dry hopped with have a very thick (wheat looking) haze to them now.
Its an IPA isn't it? Unless you are going for english style? I have used 2 oz in 5 gallons before. basically because i had them left over. it came out good. All depends on what you are looking for.
bferullo is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 03:02 PM   #18
Chris7687
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Posts: 485
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Definitely don't want this to be a malty IPA. Already messed up on the last IPA I made and it was way to malty and not enjoyable. I want to get a decent red color, but still remain in the BJCP IIPA style (8-15 SRM and no maltiness or sweetness!!). See what I have now.

6.5 pounds of Maris Otter
12 oz Vienna
8 oz Carared
1.5 oz Crystal 120L
1.5 oz Chocolate Malt

.75oz Colombus @ 60 mins (50.5 IBU)
.25oz Colombus @ 50 mins (16.0 IBU)
.25 Amarillo @ 15 mins (5.9 IBU)
.25 Amarillo @ 10 mins (4.3 IBU)
.25 Cascade @ 5 mins (1.5 IBU)
.25 Cascade @ 0 mins (1.5 IBU)

Dry hop with an ounce. Cascade or Amarillo? Debating...

Also, open to yeast recommendations. I don't want anything fruity. Was just thinking US-05.

Also, how do you guys copy you BeerSmith recipes to the forum? Typing it out manually is a PIA!!
Chris7687 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 03:19 PM   #19
GrogNerd
mean old man
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
GrogNerd's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Sterling, VA
Posts: 4,410
Liked 1319 Times on 862 Posts
Likes Given: 148

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris7687 View Post
Also, how do you guys copy you BeerSmith recipes to the forum? Typing it out manually is a PIA!!
from the list of recipes, preview window, select "plain text" and cut-n-paste here. i usually paste it into a text file first, then delete the "type" (I think the forum members can figure out it's a grain or hop or yeast) and #

you can also "save" to an html file, if you want to add it to a webpage/blog, like I do here on my brewdays
__________________
#redbully

"Why must it always be pandemonium?" - George Mueller/Nelson Van Alden

"Beer. Good." - Words of House Grog

drinking: Wojtkowiak Piwo, CLB's Barleywine, 8Hearted Pale Ale, O'Rob's Dry Irish Stout, DB8PT Session Ale, Wojtkowiak Grodziskie - bottle conditioning: Otto M. Gourd Pumpkin Barleywine, Jewel Thieves Apple Wine, CLB's Barleywine 1.2
GrogNerd is online now
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2012, 03:27 PM   #20
Jayhem
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Culpeper, VA
Posts: 2,639
Liked 277 Times on 224 Posts
Likes Given: 1252

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris7687 View Post
Definitely don't want this to be a malty IPA. Already messed up on the last IPA I made and it was way to malty and not enjoyable. I want to get a decent red color, but still remain in the BJCP IIPA style (8-15 SRM and no maltiness or sweetness!!). See what I have now.

6.5 pounds of Maris Otter
12 oz Vienna
8 oz Carared
1.5 oz Crystal 120L
1.5 oz Chocolate Malt
If you don't want to taste the malt I would not use Crystal or Chocolate malt. My black IPA has nothing but Carafa III and pale malt in it but I also put in 8 oz of C-80 and 2 oz of chocolate malt (in 5 gal) and it is still too malty/chocolate/sweet for an IPA! I still like it but it's amazing how malty it tastes for being 87 ibus.

If you retain the chocolate and crystal at least shoot to mash the grain at 149F to keep more fermentable sugars in the wort. My black IPA mash was about 154F which is part of why mine is too malty/sweet.


__________________
Next up: Amber Ale
Primary 1&2: 90 Min IPA clone
Primary 3&4: Belgian Wit
Keg #1: White Mosaic Pale Ale
Keg #2: Empty
Drinking: Amber Ale, White Mosaic Pale Ale
Jayhem is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Red Ale - Second Attempt OCBrewin Recipes/Ingredients 11 05-07-2013 08:52 PM
2nd Attempt after FAILed 1st Attempt - Question brewzofo1 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 15 12-19-2011 11:25 PM
First Attempt Pikken Cider Forum 3 05-20-2011 01:39 PM
First AG attempt FastAndy All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 5 05-11-2011 09:12 PM
First AG Attempt jayhuff Home Brewing Photo Forum 10 09-15-2008 09:46 AM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS