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Old 12-05-2012, 08:32 PM   #1
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So here is my insanity. I want to make a brew with the OG approx 1.210. Like in back to the future the delorian needs 1.21jiggawatts (yes i know its actually gigawatts) to power the flux capacitor. I would think we are looking at a barleywine most likley but it would be awesome to make something lemony. If any one has a suggestion please post here. At work right now so i cant really attempt to build a recipe.

 
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:55 PM   #2
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You're going to have a pretty tough time mashing that much grain- 40lbs at least. That's 10 gallons of strike water at 1 qt/lb, which is too thick to even really get decent efficiency. Your best bet would be to mash as much grain as you can comfortably and sparge it very well, and then boil down to your desired OG- you'll likely only end up with a few gallons of wort in the end, and an extremely high FG. Doesn't sound particularly tasty to me. At that gravity you're actually bumping up against the alcohol tolerance of WLP099, but you won't ferment down that far anyway due to all the unfermentables you'll have. Plus WLP099 is not a very tasty yeast.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:52 PM   #3
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Why not incorporate the 121 number with the hops instead?
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:46 AM   #4
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hmmmmm i like that. Maybe Use Sorachi Ace or that electrifying lemon taste lol

 
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:00 AM   #5
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That's 10 gallons of strike water at 1 qt/lb, which is too thick to even really get decent efficiency.
I regularly mash at 1 qt per lb with 75% to 80% efficiency. At 77% with 21 lbs of 2-row its 5.25 gallons and about 1.210 O.G.

 
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:02 AM   #6
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Maybe a double IPA with 121 IBUs and an OG OF 1.21.. you can use lemon zest in the secondary as well as some C hops for added citrusyness hah. I personally love citra for that kinda flavor.

 
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:50 AM   #7
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That's not a double IPA. More like a septuple IPA.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:00 AM   #8
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I regularly mash at 1 qt per lb with 75% to 80% efficiency. At 77% with 21 lbs of 2-row its 5.25 gallons and about 1.210 O.G.
What is the biggest beer you have done? Many people--myself included--tend to obtain far lower efficiency with high gravity brews. Considering the fact that your beer would be ultra high gravity, I can only speculate that your efficiency loss might scale negatively.

 
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:37 AM   #9
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I did a stout last week that was 1.088, 1 qt/lb and 4.5 gallons into the fermenter. Beersmith says 78% efficiency. That's the biggest beer I've ever tried with that thick of a mash. I double batch sparged, and ground the living crap out of my grains with a pound of rice hulls in the mash.

 
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:39 AM   #10
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I regularly mash at 1 qt per lb with 75% to 80% efficiency. At 77% with 21 lbs of 2-row its 5.25 gallons and about 1.210 O.G.
Recheck your math.
I believe you're looking at about 1.114 with 21lbs @77% for 5.25 gal.

For 1.210 you'd need 38.7lbs of 2-row @77%.

...and as has been mentioned you're not going to get 77% for gravity that high (unless you sparge half the day and boil for the other half).

For me it's somewhere between 1.090 and 1.100 that my efficiency starts taking a noticeable hit. At 1.100 I'm probably around 4-5 points lower than my normal efficiency and it gets worse the higher I go. I could continue sparging to rinse out all of the sugar that's being left behind but then I'd be looking at a 3-4 hour boil to get down to volume. No thanks.

 
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