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Old 12-04-2012, 09:05 PM   #41
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Have you noticed most beer "connoisseurs" drink Heineken?
Eh, I've noticed most "connoisseurs" drink Guinness. You know, the really heavy, full bodied, higher alcohol beer. :sarcasm:


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Old 12-04-2012, 09:18 PM   #42
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I consider myself a Beverage Enthusiast and I don't limit myself to beer! I like Wine, Cider, Mead and for that matter almost any fermented beverage.


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Old 12-04-2012, 09:41 PM   #43
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Eh, I've noticed most "connoisseurs" drink Guinness. You know, the really heavy, full bodied, higher alcohol beer. :sarcasm:
I overhear people making stupid comments like this all the time and I always make a point (nicely of course, I don't come off as a douchebag) that it's actually lower in alcohol at about 4.2% on average. One time on vacation in Cancun in the pool two older americans we were chatting with went on to tell us how much stronger Tecate is than American beer I explained to them that it's actually a half percent lower than the average 5% of most American beers and that the reason they are perceiving it as stronger is due to being on vacation, drinking more, and drinking faster being in a leisurely environment.


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I overhear people making stupid comments like this all the time and I always make a point (nicely of course, I don't come off as a douchebag) that it's actually lower in alcohol at about 4.2% on average. One time on vacation in Cancun in the pool two older americans we were chatting with went on to tell us how much stronger Tecate is than American beer I explained to them that it's actually a half percent lower than the average 5% of most American beers and that the reason they are perceiving it as stronger is due to being on vacation, drinking more, and drinking faster being in a leisurely environment.

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What are ya, some kinda beer connoisseur?

I try not to refer to myself at all. If I'm out and someone hands me a beer, I'll thank him and return the favor. If someone wants to try my beer, I'm happy to oblige unless they're rude--but I generally don't spend time with rude people more than once anyway. Live & let live--and if they don't like my beer, that's just more for me to enjoy!
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:29 AM   #45
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"Connoisseur" is one of those labels that one should be very cautious about applying to oneself. Unless you've really, really done your homework and have clearly earned the right, it strikes me as arrogant to call yourself a connoisseur.

Applying it to someone else doesn't bother me. It's not a term I use very often, but it is sometimes the correct one. These days, though, "snob" and "geek" are the informal terms, and both have lost a lot of the negative connotation. Still, "beer connoisseur" implies something a bit more than "beer snob" or "beer geek." I'm not sure quite what---a sense of gravitas or elegance. A connoisseur sits in his leather chair in the oak-paneled room sipping from a crystal snifter. A beer geek appreciates his beer just as much, but may be standing out back wearing his work shirt and jeans as he does so.

At least, that's the picture I get from the word. It's interesting to read this thread and find out what other people associate with it.
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Have you noticed most beer "connoisseurs" drink Heineken?
As a true "connoisseur," I prefer Beck's
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A connoisseur sits in his leather chair in the oak-paneled room sipping from a crystal snifter. A beer geek appreciates his beer just as much, but may be standing out back wearing his work shirt and jeans as he does so.

At least, that's the picture I get from the word.
Sorry but that's plain ridiculous. Are we as a society expected to start dumbing ourselves down using "idiocracy" like terms such as "geek" over "connoisseur"? If I've been drinking several hundreds of types of beer, learning their origins, various aspects about the beers, their histories, and having dumped that much money I'd think it silly just to label me a geek. A word that, mind you, was typically assigned by jocks to kids they would wedgy and torture in school.

To instantly assume a connoisseur is some snobby douche in a leather chair is akin to thinking someone with a Ph.D. shouldn't call include the term doctor unless they are of the medical type.


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Sorry but that's plain ridiculous. Are we as a society expected to start dumbing ourselves down using "idiocracy" like terms such as "geek" over "connoisseur"? If I've been drinking several hundreds of types of beer, learning their origins, various aspects about the beers, their histories, and having dumped that much money I'd think it silly just to label me a geek. A word that, mind you, was typically assigned by jocks to kids they would wedgy and torture in school.

To instantly assume a connoisseur is some snobby douche in a leather chair is akin to thinking someone with a Ph.D. shouldn't call include the term doctor unless they are of the medical type.


Rev. (Beer brewer and connoisseur) - typing this from my posh leather chair in my elaborate study by the fireplace while sipping not beer but 80 year old brandy...not. LOL
You quite clearly did not understand much of what I said. At least you were rude in your reply.

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