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Old 12-02-2012, 01:25 AM   #1
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not really a begginer but i thought this would be a good place for some advice. my last 3 batches have been infected with acetobacter.{no doubt about it straight vinegar} the only difference in my process was that i changed to a six and a half gallon carboy. can too much headspace cause an infection? i use a blowoff hose into starsan

 
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:32 AM   #2
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Yeah from what I know too much headspace is a common cause of infection.

 
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:37 AM   #3
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not really a begginer but i thought this would be a good place for some advice. my last 3 batches have been infected with acetobacter.{no doubt about it straight vinegar} the only difference in my process was that i changed to a six and a half gallon carboy. can too much headspace cause an infection? i use a blowoff hose into starsan
Too much headspace is usually a cause of oxidation and long conditioning and the infiltration of O2

Infection is always due to poor sanitation practice. I'm not saying its not possible but the infection could be coming from anything that is not properly sanitized after the wort cools. Any piece of equipment that comes in contact with cooled wort or fermented beer such as racking canes, tubing, chillers vessels, thieves, hydro meters, hop sacks, etc.......
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:11 AM   #4
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Yeah from what I know too much headspace is a common cause of infection.
No, that is complete shenanigans. Headspace does not magically introduce acetobacter. As a previous poster said, headspace, especially in a secondary, can lead to oxygen exposure, oxidation, etc. Poor sanitation causes infection. If it has happened three batches in a row, I'd ditch the soft plastics (hoses, racking cane, etc.) and bleach the fermenter. Pay close attention to anything that comes into contact with the wort.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:38 AM   #5
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I stand corrected.

 
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:08 PM   #6
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Headspace is absolutely not the issue here. Your sanitation has to tbe the culprit.

It's possible that you may have gotten something into your plastic items. If a long sanitation hasn't done things for you, be sure you are disaseenbling things like racking canes, bottling tips, nozzles, etc. If you have been, you may need to look replacing all plastic items: tubing, bottling bucket, etc.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:04 PM   #7
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it was ininfected in the primary. i brewed outside this summer, maybe there was something happening during chilling when the wort got below 200 and before i got to pitching temp

 
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it was ininfected in the primary. i brewed outside this summer, maybe there was something happening during chilling when the wort got below 200 and before i got to pitching temp
One batch? Maybe. Three batches in a row speaks to an ongoing sanitation issue.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:44 PM   #9
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How are you getting your wort from the brew kettle to the primary?
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:16 PM   #10
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How are you getting your wort from the brew kettle to the primary?
Through the acetobacter-infected hose, of course.
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